{"id":1923,"date":"2020-10-30T16:33:15","date_gmt":"2020-10-30T16:33:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/?p=1923"},"modified":"2020-10-31T09:43:26","modified_gmt":"2020-10-31T09:43:26","slug":"short-and-long","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/2020\/10\/30\/short-and-long\/","title":{"rendered":"Short and Long"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1924\" style=\"width: 360px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1924\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1924\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-350x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-1924\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">How long should I keep saying a sound? Fortunately, vowel (and consonant) length is not one of the difficult aspects of Danish. (Free image from Pixabay; no copyright.)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Grammar \u2013 (quite) easy. Pronunciation \u2013 (very) hard. I sometimes wish there was a pill (or rather a caramel) Danish-learners could eat, and boom! they\u2019d master all the vowel shades &amp; <em>st\u00f8d<\/em> and could concentrate on fun stuff, like poetry or Danish movies. In lack of a magical shortcut, let\u2019s revisit the topic of <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/2011\/09\/01\/written-danish-a-couple-of-quirks\/\">long vs. short<\/a> sounds in Danish.<\/p>\n<p>This month\u2019s theme was kindly suggested by a reader (thank you, Nirmala!) First, I must be upfront \u2013 I\u2019m no phonetician (a specialist about language sounds), so you\u2019ll probably miss some of the technical details. But, as someone who studied literature and the history of words, I\u2019ll try my best. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>The long vs. short issue is complicated by<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 the <em>st\u00f8d<\/em>. When it sounds like Danes are \u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/2013\/02\/20\/how-to-hiccup-like-a-dane\/\">coughing<\/a>\u201d (or gulping) in the middle of a word, this is the <em>st\u00f8d<\/em>. <strong>Tank<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>en<\/strong> (the tank) is pronounced with a <em>st\u00f8d<\/em>, <strong>tanke<\/strong>&#8211;<strong>n <\/strong>(the thought) isn\u2019t. You have to learn the <em>st\u00f8d<\/em> words by listening \u2013 the spelling won\u2019t help you. \ud83d\ude41 Is a vowel with <em>st\u00f8d<\/em> short or long? I can\u2019t really tell. Somehow, perceptions change when you have a vowel down your throat.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 the spelling. You\u2019ve got lots of <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/2018\/07\/31\/silent-letters-in-danish\/\">silent D\u2019s<\/a> in Danish \u2013 <strong>vilde vinde <\/strong>(wild winds) is *actually* just <strong>\u201d<em>ville vinne\u201d<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Okay. Let\u2019s disregard the quirky spelling and pretend <em>st\u00f8d<\/em> doesn\u2019t exist! \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Roughly speaking, Danish has short consonants and vowels that can be either short or long. In the spelling, a double consonant indicates that the preceding vowel should be short: <strong>Hanne<\/strong> (girl\u2019s name) has a short <strong>a<\/strong>, while the <strong>a<\/strong> of <strong>hane<\/strong> (rooster) is long. The same is true for <strong>sake<\/strong> (sake) vs. <strong>at sakke bagud<\/strong> (to lag behind).<\/p>\n<p>(Note that the double writing doesn\u2019t really change the quality of the consonant in the examples above.)<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately for learners, double letters are simplified at the end of words: <strong>at<\/strong> <strong>takke<\/strong> (to thank) becomes <strong>tak!<\/strong>, still with a short <strong>a<\/strong>. In a few cases, this creates confusion \u2013 <strong>skin <\/strong>(shine!, from <strong>at skinne<\/strong>, to shine) has a short <strong>i, <\/strong>while <strong>fin<\/strong> (nice \u2013 <strong>fine<\/strong> in the plural) has a long <strong>i<\/strong>. Fortunately, those cases are <em>very<\/em> rare indeed. (And often the silent D\u2019s make the pronunciation clear: both <strong>finde<\/strong> [to find] and its imperative <strong>find! <\/strong>are really just \u201d<strong><em>finne\u201d<\/em><\/strong> and <strong><em>\u201dfinn\u201d<\/em><\/strong> and therefore have a short <strong>i <\/strong>sound.)<\/p>\n<p>All right, the phoneticians <em>will<\/em> say that there are long consonants in Danish. If you take the word <strong><em>sp\u00e6ndende<\/em><\/strong> (exciting) and read it syllable by syllable, it becomes something like <strong>sp\u00e6-ne-ne<\/strong>. However, as you probably know, those final <strong>e\u2019s<\/strong> are quite neutral sounds (like the weak <strong>e<\/strong> sound of English <em>the <\/em><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"1\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"0000000000002f0d0000000000000000_1923\"><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\"  role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-0000000000002f0d0000000000000000_1923-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-0000000000002f0d0000000000000000_1923-1\" role=\"tooltip\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" data-mfn=\"1\">this is the schwa sound written \u0259 in the International Phonetic Alphabet<\/span><em> moon<\/em>). They don\u2019t sound of much, and Danes have a tendency to drop them entirely. So, in casual speech, <strong>sp\u00e6-ne-ne<\/strong> becomes something very close to <strong>sp\u00e6-n-n <\/strong>(most often, though: <strong>sp\u00e6-n-neh<\/strong>). And, when some people speak rapidly, even the little breaks will disappear, and we end up with something like <strong>\u201dsp\u00e6nn(eh)\u201d. <\/strong>Is this a long N? I still hear it as two distinct N\u2019s, but yes, the experts will probably hear it as one long N sound! \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>To recap \u2013 there\u2019s no need to complicate the \u201dlong vs. short\u201d issue in Danish. Stick to the simple rules. In these names and words, the vowel is long: <strong>Ane, hyle, ris, fin.<\/strong> And in these, the vowel (and the consonant) is short: <strong>Anne, hylde, rids, Finn.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul class=\"modern-footnotes-list modern-footnotes-list--show-only-for-print\"><li><span>1<\/span><div>this is the schwa sound written \u0259 in the International Phonetic Alphabet<\/div><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"233\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-350x233.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/30\/2020\/10\/seagull-4143142_1280.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>Grammar \u2013 (quite) easy. Pronunciation \u2013 (very) hard. I sometimes wish there was a pill (or rather a caramel) Danish-learners could eat, and boom! they\u2019d master all the vowel shades &amp; st\u00f8d and could concentrate on fun stuff, like poetry or Danish movies. In lack of a magical shortcut, let\u2019s revisit the topic of long&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"post-item__readmore\"><a class=\"btn btn--md\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/2020\/10\/30\/short-and-long\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":76,"featured_media":1924,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[4761,9088,238018,7278],"class_list":["post-1923","post","type-post","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-consonant","tag-phonetics","tag-stod","tag-vowel"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1923","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/76"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1923"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1923\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1935,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1923\/revisions\/1935"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1924"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1923"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1923"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/danish\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1923"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}