{"id":4219,"date":"2016-05-02T07:30:37","date_gmt":"2016-05-02T07:30:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/?p=4219"},"modified":"2016-05-01T13:44:55","modified_gmt":"2016-05-01T13:44:55","slug":"what-do-you-think-the-stiltecoupe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/what-do-you-think-the-stiltecoupe\/","title":{"rendered":"What do you think? The Stiltecoup\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">In most\u00a0<em>Intercity&#8217;s\u00a0<\/em>(intercity train &#8211; high speed trains) of\u00a0<em>Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS)\u00a0<\/em>(Dutch Railways &#8211; NS, the main railway company), you will find a\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9\u00a0<\/em>(silence train compartment), in which you are not allowed to talk. Intended for people that want to travel in silence, because they read a book, need to focus on some work, want to do a <em>dutje\u00a0<\/em>(nap), or just because they like it <em>stil\u00a0<\/em>(quiet).<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Reizigers houden zich niet aan de regels<\/em><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_4220\" style=\"width: 546px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4220\" class=\" wp-image-4220\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/Stilte-Coupe.png\" alt=\"Stilte! Decals on the windows tell you that in this coup\u00e9, it has to be quiet!\" width=\"536\" height=\"401\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/Stilte-Coupe.png 715w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/Stilte-Coupe-350x262.png 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 536px) 100vw, 536px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4220\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Stilte<\/em>! Decals (also in English!) on the windows tell you that in this <em>coup\u00e9<\/em>, it has to be quiet!<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The <em>stiltecoup\u00e9<\/em>, or as NS itself wants to call it,\u00a0the\u00a0<em>stiltezone\u00a0<\/em>(silence zone)\u00a0was introduced in 2003. In\u00a0<em>dubbeldekkers\u00a0<\/em>(double-deckers), the\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9\u00a0<\/em>is always the upper deck, because\u00a0<em>reizigers\u00a0<\/em>(travelers) that care about the\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9\u00a0<\/em>prefer that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Geweldig<\/em><em>, toch?\u00a0<\/em>(Great, right?) However, NS has received many\u00a0<em>klachten\u00a0<\/em>(complaints) over the years, because allegedly many people do not follow the\u00a0<em>huisregels\u00a0<\/em>(house rules) and talk anyway! There are, of course,\u00a0<em>conducteurs\u00a0<\/em>(conductors) who are supposed to\u00a0<em>terechtwijzen\u00a0<\/em>(reprimand) the <em>praters\u00a0<\/em>(talkers).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">After\u00a0<em>onderzoek\u00a0<\/em>(research), NS found out that this does not always happen, however. Obviously, the\u00a0<em>conducteurs\u00a0<\/em>are not always present in every\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9. <\/em>Also, most\u00a0<em>reizigers\u00a0<\/em>are aware that they are in a\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9<\/em>, but keep talking anyway.\u00a0And so\u00a0<em>reizigers\u00a0<\/em>themselves\u00a0have to ask\u00a0the\u00a0<em>praters\u00a0<\/em>to be quiet.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Onbeleefd\u00a0<\/em>(Rudely): <em>Wees nou eens stil! Dit is een stiltecoup\u00e9!\u00a0<\/em>(Just be quiet now! This is a silence compartment!)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Beleefd\u00a0<\/em>(Politely):\u00a0<em>Wilt u alstublieft wat zachter praten? U zit in een stiltecoup\u00e9. Dank u wel!\u00a0<\/em>(Would you please talk a little softer? You are sitting in a silence compartment. Thank you!)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Either way, reactions can differ. The\u00a0<em>reiziger\u00a0<\/em>rather asks <em>kletsende\u00a0<\/em>(chatting)\u00a0older ladies for silence than a <em>bellende\u00a0<\/em>(phoning)\u00a0muscly\u00a0\u00a0guy. What if they react aggressively?<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Meningen van reizigers<\/em><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_4221\" style=\"width: 545px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4221\" class=\"wp-image-4221 \" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR.jpg\" alt=\"An NS train at the perron (platform) of station Eindhoven\" width=\"535\" height=\"301\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR.jpg 3264w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 535px) 100vw, 535px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4221\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An NS train at the perron (platform) of station Eindhoven, from a regular\u00a0<em>coup\u00e9<\/em>.<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The only <em>aanduiding\u00a0<\/em>(indication) that\u00a0shows you that you are in a\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9\u00a0<\/em>are the window decals, icons on the outside of the\u00a0<em>treinstellen\u00a0<\/em>(train coaches), and some on the inside. The displays in each\u00a0<em>coup\u00e9\u00a0<\/em>also show how to behave in a\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9<\/em> (<em>in een stiltezone moet het \u00e9cht stil zijn\u00a0<\/em>(in a silence zone it\u00a0has to be\u00a0<em>really\u00a0<\/em>quiet), but does not say whether you are in one or not.\u00a0Many\u00a0<em>reizigers\u00a0<\/em>think that the\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9s\u00a0<\/em>are not indicated sufficiently. In the\u00a0<em>Volkskrant\u00a0<\/em>of\u00a0<em>zaterdag\u00a0<\/em>(Saturday), some\u00a0<em>reizigers\u00a0<\/em>expressed their\u00a0<em>meningen\u00a0<\/em>(opinions) about this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Pierre says:\u00a0<em>&#8220;De stilte-aanduiding buiten de treinstellen en binnen de coup\u00e9s [is] onvoldoende en onduidelijk. Daar hoef je geen onderzoek voor te doen. Dat ziet een kind.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>(The silence indication outside the train coaches and inside the compartments [is] insufficient and unclear. You don&#8217;t need to do research for that. Even a child sees that.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Dirk gives a few points that could be improved about the <em>onduidelijkheid\u00a0<\/em>(uncertainty) of the\u00a0<em>stilte-aanduiding<\/em>. He says the\u00a0<em>deuren\u00a0<\/em>(doors) should say that you are entering a\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9<\/em>, the kind of\u00a0<em>deuren\u00a0<\/em>should be different than the regular\u00a0<em>deuren<\/em>, and should and should cancel outside noise, and every <em>stoel\u00a0<\/em>(chair) should have the\u00a0silence icon on the headrest.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 544px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/imgserv9.tcdn.nl\/v1\/vmVMWYeUzPBuLcQMwfq6Eapv-0w=\/704x398\/smart\/http:\/\/metronieuws.tcdn.nl\/field\/image\/e5d67599bbb698e0cb7ec7a0713419e2-1454845300.jpg\" aria-label=\"E5d67599bbb698e0cb7ec7a0713419e2 1454845300\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\"  width=\"534\" height=\"302\" \/ alt=\"E5d67599bbb698e0cb7ec7a0713419e2 1454845300\" src=\"http:\/\/imgserv9.tcdn.nl\/v1\/vmVMWYeUzPBuLcQMwfq6Eapv-0w=\/704x398\/smart\/http:\/\/metronieuws.tcdn.nl\/field\/image\/e5d67599bbb698e0cb7ec7a0713419e2-1454845300.jpg\"><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">The new stiltecoup\u00e9s NS used for a test, with the silence icon on every headrest in a stiltecoup\u00e9 (Image by NS).<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Roeland and Mr Boon say that it is odd that there are\u00a0<em>vierzitters\u00a0<\/em>(four seaters, as on the picture above) in a <em>stiltecoup\u00e9<\/em>. &#8220;<em>Zitjes voor vier zijn impliciete uitnodigingen voor gesprek<\/em>&#8220;, (Seats for four are implicit invitations for conversation) thinks Mr Boon.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Mijn mening<\/em><\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/images.unsplash.com\/photo-1455390582262-044cdead277a?ixlib=rb-0.3.5&amp;q=80&amp;fm=jpg&amp;crop=entropy&amp;w=1080&amp;fit=max&amp;s=e2db4850687048d1d52717b09935660e\" width=\"535\" height=\"402\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">I must agree with them. Currently, the silence zones are not indicated properly, and should get a different atmosphere than the regular <em>coup\u00e9s<\/em>. In new trains, NS placed a\u00a0<em>loungebank\u00a0<\/em>(lounge couch) in the lower decks of\u00a0<em>dubbeldekkers<\/em>, as to invite people to talk with each other there, and the upper decks are for reading and working, but talking is still allowed. Next to these two zones, there are still some\u00a0<em>stiltecoup\u00e9s<\/em>. So now there are even three zones, instead of just two. Here is my opinion:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Ik vind dat de stiltecoup\u00e9s op dit moment niet voldoende zijn aangeduid. Er moeten meer aanduidingen komen die al bij het binnenkomen duidelijk maken\u00a0dat je in een stiltecoup\u00e9 bent. Alleen wat pictogrammen toevoegen zal niet helpen. De hele sfeer moet veranderen in een rustigere, misschien zelfs bibliotheekachtige sfeer. Daar zou ik me echt op mijn gemak voelen als ik stilte wil hebben. En ik denk ook dat anderen zich eerder aan de stilteregels zouden houden met zo een sfeer.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">(I think that silent compartment are not indicated sufficiently at the moment. More indications have to come that already make it clear at entrance that you are in a silence compartment. Only adding some icons wil not help. The entire atmosphere has to change into a calmer, maybe even library-like atmosphere. There, I would really feel comfortable if I want silence. And I also think that others will rather comply with the silence rules with such an atmosphere.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>Wat denk jij?<\/em><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">What do you think? Write your own opinion in a few sentences below in the comments!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">For questions, suggestions etc., you can also contact me on Facebook by clicking on the button below!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.messenger.com\/t\/learn.dutch\/\" aria-label=\"Messenger CTA\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-4202\"  alt=\"Messenger CTA\" width=\"536\" height=\"190\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/04\/Messenger-CTA.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/04\/Messenger-CTA.png 708w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/04\/Messenger-CTA-350x124.png 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 536px) 100vw, 536px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"197\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-350x197.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image tmp-hide-img\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-350x197.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/05\/IMG_20150706_091725427_HDR-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>In most\u00a0Intercity&#8217;s\u00a0(intercity train &#8211; high speed trains) of\u00a0Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS)\u00a0(Dutch Railways &#8211; NS, the main railway company), you will find a\u00a0stiltecoup\u00e9\u00a0(silence train compartment), in which you are not allowed to talk. 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