{"id":44,"date":"2009-03-12T10:18:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-12T14:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/?p=44"},"modified":"2009-03-12T10:18:00","modified_gmt":"2009-03-12T14:18:00","slug":"omdat-and-doordat-revisited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/omdat-and-doordat-revisited\/","title":{"rendered":"Omdat and doordat, revisited"},"content":{"rendered":"

In response to a few comments and questions on my \u2018Omdat and doordat\u2019 post, I would like to shortly revisit the topic again. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The reason why this topic seems so difficult, is because the topic itself is difficult, even for native Dutch people. That\u2019s the reason why the word \u2018omdat\u2019 is also more and more used where \u2018doordat\u2019 should be used. It seems like \u2018doordat\u2019 is slowly fading away and being replaced by \u2018omdat\u2019. Still, there is still an official difference between the two words. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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It\u2019s difficult to find a proper English translation\u2026 but \u2018omdat\u2019 is used in a sentence that shows a \u2018reason\u2019 and \u2018doordat\u2019 is used in a sentence with a \u2018cause and effect\u2019. Also, \u2018omdat\u2019 refers to a human decision or opinion. \u2018Doordat\u2019 refers to an external (non human) event. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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So, to use the examples Bill provided in his comment:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

1) He had a big cut on his arm DOORDAT he was in a knife fight.<\/span><\/p>\n

2) He arrived late DOORDAT his car broke down.<\/span><\/p>\n

3) I enjoy this class OMDAT it\u2019s fun.<\/span><\/p>\n

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And you are correct in all three sentences! Seems like you got the theory nailed Bill!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The first two sentences clearly show a \u2018cause and effect\u2019. The knife fight is the \u2018cause\u2019 and the big cut is the \u2018effect\u2019. The broken car is the \u2018cause\u2019 and arriving late is <\/span>the \u2018effect\u2019. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Also the second sentence refers to an external (non human) event (the car broke down)\u2026 something that\u2019s not as clear in the first sentence, but in that case \u2018doordat\u2019 is still correct because of the \u2018cause and effect\u2019. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

And to be honest, it sometimes still confuses me because \u2018rain\u2019 is also an external event and still in that example \u2018omdat\u2019 is correct to use. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

To give you\u00a0two more examples:<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cI never buy Brussel sprouts OMDAT I hate them\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cYesterday I missed an important meeting DOORDAT the train was delayed. <\/span><\/p>\n

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In response to a few comments and questions on my \u2018Omdat and doordat\u2019 post, I would like to shortly revisit the topic again. The reason why this topic seems so difficult, is because the topic itself is difficult, even for native Dutch people. That\u2019s the reason why the word \u2018omdat\u2019 is also more and more…<\/p>\n

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