{"id":5953,"date":"2019-02-25T07:30:48","date_gmt":"2019-02-25T07:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/?p=5953"},"modified":"2019-02-23T10:09:11","modified_gmt":"2019-02-23T10:09:11","slug":"s-woensdags-how-does-the-dutch-genitive-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/s-woensdags-how-does-the-dutch-genitive-work\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;s Woensdags &#8211; How does the Dutch genitive work?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How do you say &#8220;On Wednesdays, we go shopping in Amsterdam&#8221; in Dutch? The answer may not be as straightforward as you&#8217;d think. And that is what this post is about!<\/p>\n<h2><em><strong>Genitief<\/strong><\/em><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_5954\" style=\"width: 580px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/photos\/ZMMXSRMSoI8\" aria-label=\"Rawpixel 633847 Unsplash 1024x719\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5954\" class=\" wp-image-5954\"  alt=\"\" width=\"570\" height=\"400\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-1024x719.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-1024x719.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-350x246.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-768x539.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 570px) 100vw, 570px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5954\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image by rawpixel at Unsplash.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>&#8216;s Woensdags winkelen we in Amsterdam.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What stands out in the sentence above?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the apostrophe and lowercase\u00a0<em>s<\/em>\u00a0at the BEGINNING of a sentence.\u00a0<em>Woensdags<\/em> is capitalized instead. What&#8217;s going on?<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0<em>&#8216;s<\/em> comes from the Dutch\u00a0<em>genitief\u00a0<\/em>(genitiv). It is the possessive form, which is usually expressed in English with a\u00a0&#8220;&#8216;s&#8221; or with &#8220;of&#8221;: <em>It is my father&#8217;s house\/It is the house of my father.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In Dutch, it actually works quite similarly:\u00a0<em>Het is mijn vader&#8217;s huis\/Het is het huis van mijn vader<\/em>. Both forms are correct, but the second form is definitely more formal. The first is more colloquial.<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0<em>&#8216;s<\/em>, also after\u00a0<em>vader<\/em> in the example above, comes from\u00a0<em>des vaders<\/em>\u00a0<em>huis<\/em>, the old genitive form in Dutch. However, it is not used anymore &#8211; but there are some remnants, such as the\u00a0<em>s\u00a0<\/em>for modern possessive forms.<\/p>\n<p>So back to\u00a0<em>&#8216;s Woensdags.\u00a0<\/em>With the logic of the\u00a0<em>genitief<\/em>, you could also read it as <em>des Woensdags.\u00a0<\/em>But because people found these forms too cumbersome, they started shortening them, and\u00a0<em>des Woensdags\u00a0<\/em>became\u00a0<em>&#8216;s Woensdags<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0<em>des\u00a0<\/em>is used here because it is a\u00a0<em>tijdbepaling\u00a0<\/em>(definition of time). So it is also used for other terms:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;s zomers\u00a0<\/em>(in summer)<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;s winters\u00a0<\/em>(in winter)<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;s avonds\u00a0<\/em>(in the evening)<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;s ochtends\u00a0<\/em>(in the morning).<\/p>\n<p>Nowadays, you will increasingly see these forms even without the\u00a0<em>&#8216;s<\/em>. And that is also rated as correct. So there is not that much to worry about. But\u00a0<em>&#8216;s\u00a0<\/em>is still definitely more common.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Strange exceptions<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Strange enough, the exceptions to this rule only make things more confusing.<\/p>\n<p>For example,\u00a0<em>&#8216;s maandags\u00a0<\/em>is a form, but you will barely ever hear\u00a0<em>&#8216;s dinsdags\u00a0<\/em>or\u00a0<em>&#8216;s vrijdags;\u00a0<\/em><em>&#8216;s lentes\u00a0<\/em>or\u00a0<em>&#8216;s herfsts<\/em>. Why?<\/p>\n<p>Those letters just clash! Try pronouncing those things. The combinations\u00a0<em>sd-\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>svr-\u00a0<\/em>at the beginning of a word, or the terrible ending &#8211;<em>rfsts\u00a0<\/em>just hurt. So people leave the whole stuff with the\u00a0<em>&#8216;s<\/em>, and just say\u00a0<em>Op dinsdagen\u00a0<\/em>(on Tuesdays) or\u00a0<em>in de lente\u00a0<\/em>(in spring).<\/p>\n<p>So what rule can you digest from this? Does it sound halfway doable? Use\u00a0<em>&#8216;s\u00a0<\/em>to determine regular times. Otherwise just use any of the other forms.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think of this rule? Do you use it yourself? Which one do you prefer,\u00a0<em>&#8216;s maandags, maandags\u00a0<\/em>or\u00a0<em>op maandagen<\/em>? Let me know in the comments below!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"246\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-350x246.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-350x246.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-768x539.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2019\/02\/rawpixel-633847-unsplash-1024x719.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>How do you say &#8220;On Wednesdays, we go shopping in Amsterdam&#8221; in Dutch? The answer may not be as straightforward as you&#8217;d think. And that is what this post is about! Genitief &#8216;s Woensdags winkelen we in Amsterdam. What stands out in the sentence above? 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