{"id":7472,"date":"2021-08-27T15:14:48","date_gmt":"2021-08-27T15:14:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/?p=7472"},"modified":"2021-08-27T15:14:48","modified_gmt":"2021-08-27T15:14:48","slug":"er-en-daar-the-not-so-confusing-dutch-translations-of-there","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/er-en-daar-the-not-so-confusing-dutch-translations-of-there\/","title":{"rendered":"Er en daar: The (not so) confusing Dutch versions of &#8220;there&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Like many other languages, Dutch has a differentiation between\u00a0<em>er\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>daar<\/em>, which in English both translate to &#8220;there&#8221;. So what\u00a0<em>is\u00a0<\/em>that difference, how can you keep them apart, and what do you use when?<\/p>\n<h1><strong>&#8220;There&#8221; is the culprit<\/strong><\/h1>\n<div id=\"attachment_7473\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/photos\/l1q_SzH5dKs\" aria-label=\"Thomas Mowe L1q SzH5dKs Unsplash 1024x683\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7473\" class=\"wp-image-7473 size-large\"  alt=\"er en daar there explanation\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash-1024x683.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/thomas-mowe-l1q_SzH5dKs-unsplash.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7473\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/@thomasmowe?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Thomas Mowe<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/s\/photos\/point?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Unsplash<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Like the English word <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/whats-some-in-dutch-een-paar-sommige-enkele-sommig-soms\/\">&#8220;some&#8221;<\/a>, which has quite a range of translations in Dutch, &#8220;there&#8221; seems to be the reason for the confusing translation.<\/p>\n<p>The Dutch words\u00a0<em>er\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>daar\u00a0<\/em>both translate to &#8220;there&#8221;. But the meaning of &#8220;there&#8221; is different.\u00a0<em>Daar\u00a0<\/em>means &#8220;there&#8221;, compared to &#8220;here&#8221; (hier). <strong>You can point at\u00a0<em>daar<\/em>.<\/strong> Here&#8217;s an example:<\/p>\n<p><em>Waar staat iedereen?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Daar! Op het plein.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(Where is everybody?<\/p>\n<p>There! On the square.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Daar is de man, die mij heeft gebeld\u00a0<\/em>(There is the man that called me).<\/p>\n<p>You can point at the people, you can point at the man. It indicates a certain place, like <em>hier <\/em>(here) and <em>daar <\/em>(there).<\/p>\n<p><strong>What about\u00a0<em>er<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Translating\u00a0<em>er<\/em> also becomes &#8220;there&#8221;. But here it is in a more generic, general sense. Here, it is used as a pronoun. Like this:<\/p>\n<p><em>Er zijn mensen die niet geloven.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(There are people that do not believe.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Er is niets aan te doen<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>(There is nothing to do about it.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Er is niets van over<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>(There is nothing left of it).<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s it! So a &#8220;there is&#8221; or &#8220;there are&#8221; simply translates to\u00a0<em>er is\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>er zijn<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>What about\u00a0<em>Daar is\u00a0<\/em>or\u00a0<em>Daar zijn<\/em>? Again, like you could see in the examples of\u00a0<em>daar<\/em>, that indicates a certain place.<\/p>\n<h1><strong>Beyond &#8220;there&#8221;: Other meanings of <em>er<\/em>\u00a0and <em>daar<\/em><\/strong><\/h1>\n<div id=\"attachment_7474\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/photos\/C2zhShTnl5I\" aria-label=\"Nick Fewings C2zhShTnl5I Unsplash 1024x683\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7474\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7474\"  alt=\"er en daar there that pronoun proposition\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-1024x683.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7474\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/@jannerboy62?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Nick Fewings<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/s\/photos\/there?utm_source=unsplash&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_content=creditCopyText\">Unsplash<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>Er\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>daar\u00a0<\/em>can also be more versatile than just there. They are also complementary words in referring to something when propositions are involved (<em>ervan, daarin, daarvan, erin, erop, daaropaf,\u00a0<\/em>etc.).<\/p>\n<p>For example:<\/p>\n<p><em>Er zijn mensen die\u00a0<strong>daar<\/strong> niet in geloven.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(There are people that do not believe\u00a0<strong>in that<\/strong>.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Daar\u00a0<\/em>in this sense does not refer to a place, but it refers back to something previously stated. It&#8217;s because of the proposition\u00a0<em>in\u00a0<\/em>that we get\u00a0<em>daar<\/em> here, instead of\u00a0<em>dat<\/em> (that):<\/p>\n<p><em>Er zijn mensen die <strong>dat<\/strong> niet geloven. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>(There are people that do not believe <strong>that<\/strong>.)<\/p>\n<p>What happens if we do this with\u00a0<em>er<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p><em>Er zijn mensen die\u00a0<strong>er\u00a0<\/strong>niet in geloven.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(There are people that do not believe\u00a0<strong>in it<\/strong>).<\/p>\n<p>So, just like in the other meanings,\u00a0<em>er\u00a0<\/em>is a more generic form that does not refer to something specific. That can be nicely illustrated in the next example too:<\/p>\n<p><em>Ik kan <strong>er<\/strong> echt niks <strong>van<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Waarvan<\/strong>?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Daarvan<\/strong>!\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Hij wijst naar de piano<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>(I am really terrible <strong>at this<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>At what?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>At that!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He points at the piano.)<\/p>\n<p>You can also think of it this way: &#8220;<em>er\/daar\/hier\/waar\u00a0<\/em>(there\/there\/here\/where) + preposition&#8221; means essentially &#8220;preposition + <em>dat\/dit\/wat\u00a0<\/em>(that\/this\/what)&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><em>Hij kijkt graag <strong>naar<\/strong> de vogels in zijn tuin.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Waarnaar<\/strong> kijkt hij graag? \/ <strong>Naar wat<\/strong> kijkt hij graag?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Daarnaar<\/strong>! <strong>Naar dat<\/strong>!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(He likes to look at the birds in his garden.<\/p>\n<p><strong>At what<\/strong> does he like to look? \/ <strong>At what<\/strong> does he like to look?<\/p>\n<p><strong>To that<\/strong>! \/\u00a0<strong>To that<\/strong>!)<\/p>\n<p>As we can see here, English only does the latter: &#8220;proposition + that\/this\/what&#8221;, whereas Dutch can do both interchangeably.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/onzetaal.nl\/taaladvies\/er-voorzetsel-werkwoord\"><em>OnzeTaal\u00a0<\/em>has a great article on the topic as well as a quiz<\/a> that can help you get a better grasp on the topic!<\/p>\n<p><strong>If this explanation helped you, or if you have more questions, let me know in the comments below!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"233\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-350x233.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"er en daar there that pronoun proposition\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2021\/08\/nick-fewings-C2zhShTnl5I-unsplash.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>Like many other languages, Dutch has a differentiation between\u00a0er\u00a0and\u00a0daar, which in English both translate to &#8220;there&#8221;. So what\u00a0is\u00a0that difference, how can you keep them apart, and what do you use when? &#8220;There&#8221; is the culprit Like the English word &#8220;some&#8221;, which has quite a range of translations in Dutch, &#8220;there&#8221; seems to be the reason&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"post-item__readmore\"><a class=\"btn btn--md\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/er-en-daar-the-not-so-confusing-dutch-translations-of-there\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":110,"featured_media":7474,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":""},"categories":[27710,3590],"tags":[551525,551524,6,551526,125,551528,551527],"class_list":["post-7472","post","type-post","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dutch-grammar","category-dutch-language","tag-daar","tag-er","tag-grammar","tag-place","tag-prepositions","tag-pronoun","tag-there"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7472","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/110"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7472"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7472\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7475,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7472\/revisions\/7475"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7474"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7472"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7472"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7472"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}