{"id":7532,"date":"2021-11-25T13:47:16","date_gmt":"2021-11-25T13:47:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/?p=7532"},"modified":"2021-11-25T13:47:16","modified_gmt":"2021-11-25T13:47:16","slug":"dutch-idioms-26-why-do-the-dutch-take-chestnuts-from-fire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/dutch\/dutch-idioms-26-why-do-the-dutch-take-chestnuts-from-fire\/","title":{"rendered":"Dutch Idioms 26 – Why Do The Dutch Take Chestnuts From Fire?"},"content":{"rendered":"

In this edition of Dutch Idioms, I want to take a look at the\u00a0kastanje\u00a0<\/em>(chestnut). An item that isn’t used much in\u00a0spreekwoorden\u00a0<\/em>(sayings) and\u00a0uitdrukkingen <\/em>(expressions), yet the one it has going for it is very widely known. With an interesting origin, this idiom deserves its own post. So let’s unravel it!<\/p>\n

For other idioms in this series, click here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

De kastanjes voor een ander uit het vuur halen<\/strong><\/em><\/h1>\n
\"Chestnuts<\/a>

Careful with those (Photo by \u00dcmit Y\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131m<\/a> on Unsplash<\/a>)<\/p><\/div>\n

To do somebody else’s dirty work<\/strong><\/p>\n

Literally: To get the chestnuts from the fire for somebody else<\/em><\/p>\n

This\u00a0uitdrukking\u00a0<\/em>is very widely known and used a lot. Everybody in the Netherlands will recognize it. It means, simply, that you’re doing somebody else’s dirty work. While that person profits from what you’re doing, you’re the one that’s taking the risks to get those profits. This can be a pretty common situation, so it makes sense that there is a popular\u00a0uitdrukking\u00a0<\/em>related to this. But why is it exactly this – taking chestnuts out of a fire? I can imagine that putting your hand in a hot pan to get hot chestnuts out is a great way to give yourself some considerable burns. So I get it on that level. But why not jumping off a cliff? Fighting a duel?<\/p>\n

The Monkey and The Cat<\/strong><\/h3>\n
\"Dutch<\/a>

Poor cat got deceived by monkey (Photo by SarahRichterArt at Pixabay.com)<\/p><\/div>\n

The story actually has its origin in a fabel\u00a0<\/em>(fable) by famous French fabulist Jean de La Fontaine<\/strong><\/a>. It’s\u00a0Le Singe et Le Chat<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>(The Monkey and The Cat) –<\/em> De Aap en de Kat <\/em>in Dutch. In it, the\u00a0aap\u00a0<\/em>(monkey) convinces the\u00a0kat\u00a0<\/em>(cat) to get the\u00a0kastanjes\u00a0<\/em>out of the\u00a0vuur\u00a0<\/em>(fire), promising a share. However, when the\u00a0kat\u00a0<\/em>is done, the\u00a0aap\u00a0<\/em>gobbles them all up! When a maid enters, the\u00a0kat\u00a0<\/em>cannot do anything to change the situation anymore – he’s been played!<\/p>\n

This\u00a0fabel\u00a0<\/em>has been the subject of countless depictions over the ages<\/a>, cementing the moral of the story. Initially a French saying,\u00a0tirer les marrons du feu<\/em>, it made its way into Dutch. And while for the French,\u00a0marrons\u00a0<\/em>are a common snack, the Dutch don’t really eat them that much. So in French, this might make more sense culturally. But the\u00a0uitdrukking\u00a0<\/em>stuck anyway!<\/p>\n

As an aside, the English “a cat’s paw” as being a tool for somebody else, also finds its origin in this\u00a0fabel\u00a0<\/em>by La Fontaine.<\/p>\n

One thing that’s changed over the years, at least in the Dutch idiom, is the element of danger<\/strong> – you don’t have to be putting yourself at risk to do somebody else’s dirty work. You just have to be doing something for another that they don’t like to do. So the meaning has broadened somewhat.<\/p>\n

Usage of the idiom<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Usage is formal and informal. Obviously, the person for which the\u00a0kastanjes\u00a0<\/em>are taken from the\u00a0vuur\u00a0<\/em>looks like the bad guy here, so beware of that if you don’t mean to say that.<\/p>\n

Here’s an example in Dutch:<\/p>\n

John is alweer Bram’s auto aan het poetsen! Waarom doet hij dat niet zelf?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Tja, John haalt altijd de kastanjes uit het vuur voor Bram!<\/em><\/p>\n

(John is cleaning Bram’s car again! Why doesn’t he do it himself?<\/p>\n

– Well, John always takes the chestnuts from the fire for Bram!)<\/p>\n

Have you heard this idiom before? Is there a similar version in your language? Let me know in the comments below!<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"Dutch

In this edition of Dutch Idioms, I want to take a look at the\u00a0kastanje\u00a0(chestnut). An item that isn’t used much in\u00a0spreekwoorden\u00a0(sayings) and\u00a0uitdrukkingen (expressions), yet the one it has going for it is very widely known. With an interesting origin, this idiom deserves its own post. So let’s unravel it! For other idioms in this series…<\/p>\n

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