{"id":1613,"date":"2014-09-09T17:53:39","date_gmt":"2014-09-09T17:53:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/?p=1613"},"modified":"2014-09-09T17:53:39","modified_gmt":"2014-09-09T17:53:39","slug":"how-to-be-polite-in-greek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/how-to-be-polite-in-greek\/","title":{"rendered":"How to be polite in Greek"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1614\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/farm3.staticflickr.com\/2463\/3684386434_97c847f2e9.jpg\" aria-label=\"3684386434 97c847f2e9\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1614\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1614\"  alt=\"Rob Boudon (under a CC license on Flickr)\" width=\"500\" height=\"387\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2014\/09\/3684386434_97c847f2e9.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2014\/09\/3684386434_97c847f2e9.jpg 500w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2014\/09\/3684386434_97c847f2e9-350x271.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1614\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rob Boudon (under a CC license on Flickr)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>One of the first topics Greek students have to learn is the use of the polite form. It is a relatively \u201cnew\u201d element, as it did not exist in ancient Greek, and has its origins in French. It is formed by the second plural person. E.g.\u00a0 <strong>\u00ab\u03a4\u03b9 \u03ba\u03ac\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b5<\/strong> <strong>\u0394\u03ae\u03bc\u03bf\u03c5;\u00bb<\/strong> (Tee kanete\u00a0 keerie Demou?) <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">How are you Mr. Demou?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">When do we use it?<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\nNative speakers use formal language when addressing older people or people they don\u2019t know well. Some people also use it when they want to keep a distance with their interlocutor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>How to ask to be addressed by our first name?<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nSometimes, we are not sure whether we should use the polite form the first time we are introduced to someone. If our interlocutor uses the polite form, we use it too. However, if we want to be on first-name terms with them we can say:<br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u039d\u03b1 \u03bc\u03b9\u03bb\u03ac\u03bc\u03b5 \u03ba\u03b1\u03bb\u03cd\u03c4\u03b5\u03c1\u03b1 \u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd\u03b9\u03ba\u03cc;\u00bb<\/strong> (Na milame kaleetera ston eneeko)\u00a0 which means <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">\u201cshall we better talk on a<\/span> <span style=\"color: #333399\">first-name basis?\u201d<\/span><\/strong> <em>(<strong>\u03a3\u03c4\u03bf\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd\u03b9\u03ba\u03cc<\/strong> means <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">in singular<\/span><\/strong>)<\/em>.<br \/>\nWe can also ask them directly to address us by our first name:<br \/>\n<strong>&#8211; \u03a0\u03bf\u03cd \u03bc\u03ad\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03c5\u03c1\u03af\u03b1 \u0394\u03b7\u03bc\u03b7\u03c4\u03c1\u03af\u03bf\u03c5;<\/strong> (Pou menete keeria Demetriou?)\u00a0 <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">Where do you live Mrs. Demetriou?<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n&#8211; <strong>\u039b\u03ad\u03b3\u03b5 \u03bc\u03b5 \u0388\u03bb\u03bb\u03b7\u2026<\/strong>(Lege me Ellie). <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">Call me Ellie.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>How do we form it?<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nThe polite form is formed by a verb on the second plural person. Honorifics must be put in the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vocative_case\">vocative case <\/a>(<strong>\u03ba\u03bb\u03b7\u03c4\u03b9\u03ba\u03ae<\/strong>, kleeteekee). If we address a person that we know well, our teacher or an elderly neighbor for instance, we can address them with an honorific followed by their first name:<br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7\u03bc\u03ad\u03c1\u03b1 \u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b5 \u03a0\u03ad\u03c4\u03c1\u03bf!\u00bb<\/strong> (Kaleemera keerie Petro). <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">Good morning Mr. Petro!<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03cc \u03c3\u03b1\u03b2\u03b2\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf\u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b1\u03ba\u03bf \u03ba\u03c5\u03c1\u03af\u03b1 \u0391\u03b8\u03b7\u03bd\u03ac!\u00bb<\/strong> (Kalo savatokeerieeko keeria Atheena). <span style=\"color: #333399\"><strong>Have a nice weekend Mrs. Athena!<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>Some extra tips<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We never address people by their last name without using an honorific, unless we know them very well.<br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7\u03c3\u03c0\u03ad\u03c1\u03b1 \u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b5 \u0391\u03bd\u03c4\u03c9\u03bd\u03cc\u03c0\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03b5, \u03c4\u03b9 \u03ba\u03ac\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5;\u00bb<\/strong> (Kaleespera keerie Antonopoule ti kanete?) <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">Good evening Mr.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #333399\">Antonopoule, how are you?<\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;text-decoration: underline\"> NOT:<\/span> <\/span><del>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7\u03c3\u03c0\u03ad\u03c1\u03b1 \u0391\u03bd\u03c4\u03ce\u03bd\u03cc\u03c0\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03b5, \u03c4\u03b9 \u03ba\u03ac\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5;\u00bb<span style=\"color: #333399\"> Good evening Antonopoule, how are you?<\/span><\/del><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>BUT:<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u0388\u03bb\u03b1 \u03c1\u03b5 \u0391\u03bd\u03c4\u03c9\u03bd\u03cc\u03c0\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03b5, \u03c4\u03b9 \u03ad\u03b3\u03b9\u03bd\u03b5\u03c2;\u00bb<\/strong> (Ela re Antonopoule, ti egines?) <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">\u201cHey Antonopoule, where have you<\/span> <span style=\"color: #333399\">been?\u201d<\/span><\/strong><em>( Note that this language is informal)<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>Words like <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">doctor<\/span><\/strong><em>(<strong>\u03b3\u03b9\u03b1\u03c4\u03c1\u03ad<\/strong>, giatre)<\/em> or <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">professor<\/span> <\/strong><em>(<strong>\u03ba\u03b1\u03b8\u03b7\u03b3\u03b7\u03c4\u03ac<\/strong>, katheegeeta)<\/em> are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">not<\/span> followed by a surname:<br \/>\n<strong>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03cc \u03b2\u03c1\u03ac\u03b4\u03c5, \u03b3\u03b9\u03b1\u03c4\u03c1\u03ad!\u00bb<\/strong> (Kalo vradee giatre). <strong><span style=\"color: #333399\">Have a nice evening doctor<\/span><\/strong> or <strong>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03cc \u03b2\u03c1\u03ac\u03b4\u03c5, \u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b5<\/strong> <strong>\u0393\u03b5\u03c9\u03c1\u03b3\u03af\u03bf\u03c5!\u00bb<\/strong> (Kalo vradee keerie Georgiou) and <strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;text-decoration: underline\">NOT<\/span> <\/span><del>\u00ab\u039a\u03b1\u03bb\u03cc \u03b2\u03c1\u03ac\u03b4\u03c5, \u03b3\u03b9\u03b1\u03c4\u03c1\u03ad \u0393\u03b5\u03c9\u03c1\u03b3\u03af\u03bf\u03c5!\u00bb <span style=\"color: #333399\">Have a nice evening doctor Georgiou.<\/span><\/del><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>When is it ok not to use it?<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nIf you visit a remote village with few elderly residents it\u2019s acceptable to talk to them using informal language. In fact, the use of the polite form will make them feel rather uncomfortable.<br \/>\nThe Greeks are not so strict about the use of the polite form. During conversation they can easily switch to a more casual way of speaking, as it is a way of breaking the ice and of making the communication easier.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1615\" style=\"width: 330px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/farm4.staticflickr.com\/3636\/3651187909_a5a04805dd_n.jpg\" aria-label=\"3651187909 A5a04805dd N\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1615\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1615\"  alt=\"TijsB (under a CC license on Flickr)\" width=\"320\" height=\"214\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2014\/09\/3651187909_a5a04805dd_n.jpg\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1615\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">TijsB (under a CC license on Flickr)<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"320\" height=\"214\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/greek\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/20\/2014\/09\/3651187909_a5a04805dd_n.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image tmp-hide-img\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><p>One of the first topics Greek students have to learn is the use of the polite form. It is a relatively \u201cnew\u201d element, as it did not exist in ancient Greek, and has its origins in French. It is formed by the second plural person. E.g.\u00a0 \u00ab\u03a4\u03b9 \u03ba\u03ac\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03cd\u03c1\u03b9\u03b5 \u0394\u03ae\u03bc\u03bf\u03c5;\u00bb (Tee kanete\u00a0 keerie Demou?) 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