{"id":10782,"date":"2018-08-16T11:10:24","date_gmt":"2018-08-16T11:10:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=10782"},"modified":"2018-09-03T14:48:52","modified_gmt":"2018-09-03T14:48:52","slug":"an-feidir-leat-deileail-leo-seo-irish-language-practice-for-the-new-video-when-you-order-coffee-with-an-irish-name","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/an-feidir-leat-deileail-leo-seo-irish-language-practice-for-the-new-video-when-you-order-coffee-with-an-irish-name\/","title":{"rendered":"An f\u00e9idir leat d\u00e9ile\u00e1il leo seo? Irish Language Practice for the New Video \u2018When You Order Coffee with an Irish Name\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10783\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter post-item__attachment\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-e1535368131421.jpg\" aria-label=\"Irish Names In Word Cloud 1024x791\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10783\" class=\"size-large wp-image-10783\"  alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"791\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-1024x791.jpg\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10783\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Ainmneacha Gaeilge le c\u00fapla d\u00f3igh le dh\u00e1 cheann acu a litri\u00fa (R\u00f3isl\u00edn a rinne, 2018)<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Many of you many have seen by now the entertaining new video \u2018When You Order Coffee with an Irish Name,\u2019 which shows a barista in a coffee bar looking baffled by some traditional Irish names (<strong>nasc th\u00edos<\/strong>). Perhaps some of you have had similar experiences in real life. \u00a0If so, <strong>scr\u00edobh isteach, le do thoil agus inis d\u00fainn cad a tharla<\/strong>. \u00a0Of course, I\u2019d also love to know what experiences some of the international interestingly-named luminaries of the past would have had, if flavored coffees had been such a thing, back in the day. Rabindranath?\u00a0 U (for U Thant)? \u00a0Ozymandias? \u00a0Telemachus? \u00a0Or how about some of those <strong>ainmneacha Pi\u00farat\u00e1nacha<\/strong>, remarkable and memorable in and of themselves, like \u201cO Be Joyful\u201d or \u201cHumiliation\u201d or \u201cNo-Merit\u201d? (<strong>Nasc th\u00edos d\u00f3ibh si\u00fad<\/strong>, if you want to see more <strong>ainmneacha Pi\u00farat\u00e1nacha<\/strong>)<\/p>\n<p>For today\u2019s blogpost, I\u2019d like to first, look at the Irish expressions for saying \u201chandling something\u201d in all three senses (dealing with, discussing, physically manipulating).\u00a0 Why this phrase?\u00a0 The song in the video asks several times &#8220;Can you handle this?&#8221; or proclaims &#8220;We don&#8217;t think you can handle this!&#8221;\u00a0 Echoes of what 2001 hit song (<strong>amhr\u00e1n i mB\u00e9arla, ar nd\u00f3igh<\/strong>)?\u00a0 After that, we\u2019ll look at the Irish names that were featured in the film.<\/p>\n<p>So, three ways to say \u201cto handle something\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1) to deal with: <strong>d\u00e9ile\u00e1il le<\/strong>, lit. (<strong>d\u00e9ile\u00e1il<\/strong>) deal, (<strong>le<\/strong>) with; this is the meaning we want for the concept behind the <strong>f\u00eds<\/strong>\u00a0(video, say: feesh)<\/li>\n<li>2) to discuss; to discuss (it) \u2013 <strong>pl\u00e9; \u00e9 a phl\u00e9<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>3) to physically manipulate \u2013 l<strong>\u00e1imhse\u00e1i<\/strong>l (based on the word \u201c<strong>l\u00e1mh<\/strong>,\u201d hand)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So for the theme of this video, we would use \u201c<strong>An f\u00e9idir leat d\u00e9ile\u00e1il leis seo<\/strong>?\u201d when talking about one specific name, or any one thing in general.\u00a0 For the title of this blogpost, though, I used \u201c<strong>leo seo,<\/strong>\u201d for \u201cthese,\u201d so the phrase \u201c<strong>An f\u00e9idir leat d\u00e9ile\u00e1il leo seo<\/strong>?\u201d means \u201cCan you deal with these?\u201d\u00a0 That refers to the group of 12 names mentioned in the blog, not just one at a time.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cyes\u201d answer to this question would be \u201c<strong>Is f\u00e9idir<\/strong>\u201d and the \u201cno\u201d answer would be \u201c<strong>N\u00ed f\u00e9idir<\/strong>.\u201d Not that the barista <strong>bocht<\/strong> actually answers in Irish in the video!\u00a0 Well, of course, the question isn\u2019t posed in Irish, so why would he?<\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s a little pronunciation tip for beginners.\u00a0 The words \u201c<strong>leo<\/strong>\u201d and \u201c<strong>seo<\/strong>\u201d have the same set of vowels, so you might think they\u2019d rhyme.\u00a0 But no, \u201c<strong>leo<\/strong>\u201d has a long \u201co\u201d sound, like an \u201c\u00f3\u201d (<strong>o-fada<\/strong>, as in \u201c<strong>b\u00f3<\/strong>\u201d or \u201c<strong>d\u00f3<\/strong>\u201d).\u00a0 But there is no \u201c<strong>fada<\/strong>\u201d because the \u201ceo\u201d combination in Irish is almost always understood to have a long 0 sound, as in \u201c<strong>beo<\/strong>,\u201d \u201c<strong>deo<\/strong>,\u201d or <strong>T\u00f3iceo<\/strong>).\u00a0 The word \u201c<strong>seo<\/strong>,\u201d however, is an exception, and the vowel sound is essentially like the \u201cuh\u201d sound in English \u201cfun\u201d or \u201cabout\u201d \u2013 remember it\u2019s English spelling that\u2019s crazy here, with the \u201cu\u201d and the \u201ca\u201d having the same sound.\u00a0 So Irish \u201c<strong>seo<\/strong>\u201d is like English \u201cshun\u201d without the final \u201cn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What about the \u201ce\u201d in \u201c<strong>leo<\/strong>\u201d and \u201c<strong>seo<\/strong>,\u201d you might ask.\u00a0 It\u2019s basically silent, but it does affect how the initial \u201cl\u201d and the initial \u201cs\u201d are pronounced, like the \u201cl\u201d in \u201cmillion\u201d and the \u201csh\u201d of English words like \u201cshoe\u201d or \u201cshow.\u201d\u00a0 In Irish, \u201cs\u201d followed directly by an \u201ce\u201d is virtually always pronounced like English \u201csh,\u201d as you already know, really, from \u201c<strong>Se\u00e1n<\/strong>\u201d and \u201c<strong>seamr\u00f3g<\/strong>\u201d (which gives us \u201cshamrock\u201d).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Agus anois, na hainmneacha <\/strong>(with a rough pronunciation guide):<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aoife &#8211; <\/strong>EE-fuh<\/p>\n<p><strong>Siobh\u00e1n &#8211; <\/strong>shiv-AWN<\/p>\n<p><strong>Domhnall<\/strong> (which can also be spelled \u201c<strong>D\u00f3nal<\/strong>\u201d) &#8211; the shorter spelling really gives us the pronunciation<\/p>\n<p><strong>Niamh &#8211; <\/strong>neev or NEE-uv<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u00e9adhb<\/strong>, in this video (or <strong>M\u00e9adhbh<\/strong>, or, for that matter, in Old Irish \u201c<strong>Medb<\/strong>\u201d) &#8211; mayv, as in the late Maeve Binchy<\/p>\n<p><strong>Donncha &#8211; <\/strong>DON-uh-khuh (note: it&#8217;s 3 syllables)<\/p>\n<p><strong>B\u00e9ibhinn &#8211; <\/strong>BAY-vin<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bl\u00e1thnaid &#8211; <\/strong>BLAW-nidj (note the silent &#8220;t&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Caoimhe &#8211; <\/strong>K<sup>w<\/sup>EE-vuh<\/p>\n<p>In the captions but not featured on the screen:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aisling &#8211;<\/strong> ASH-ling<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rois\u00edn <\/strong>or <strong>R\u00f3is\u00edn &#8211; <\/strong>ROH-sheen<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tadhg &#8211;<\/strong> tyg, very difficult to represent in a rough guide to pronunciation, but the &#8220;dh&#8221; is essentially silent although it does change the &#8220;a&#8221; sound to an &#8220;aye\/eye\/I&#8221; sound; this &#8220;ty&#8221; is as in &#8220;my,&#8221; &#8220;cry&#8221; or &#8220;fly&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sin iad na hainmneacha agus t\u00e1 s\u00fail agam gur chuidigh s\u00e9 seo<\/strong>.\u00a0 And now, those of you have watched the video will know why I&#8217;m asking, &#8220;<strong>C\u00e9n Ghaeilge at\u00e1 ar &#8216;booty-licious&#8217; &#8220;?<\/strong>\u00a0 <strong>Leis an ngr\u00fapa &#8220;P\u00e1iste na Cinni\u00fana,&#8221;<\/strong> as it were.\u00a0 <strong>An bhfuil t\u00fa r\u00e9idh don litri\u00fa seo?<\/strong>\u00a0 <strong>SGF &#8211; R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Naisc: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=aVaHvRLlHr0\"><strong>When You Order Coffee With An Irish Name<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCblk5U77GR8KseA6Pe4E_VA\">Just These, Please<\/a>\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=aVaHvRLlHr0\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=aVaHvRLlHr0<\/a>\u00a0 Published on Aug 10, 2018.\u00a0\u00a0DOP Ciaron Craig; AD: Haley Bishop.\u00a0\u00a0Video by: Just These, Please Shot by: Ciaron Craig Edited by: Philippa Carson; Special Thanks: Haley Bishop &amp; Really Bright Media<\/p>\n<p>And if you want a chuckle, check out \u201cBrits Pronounce Irish Names\u201d at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KEdxsLAQA1A\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=KEdxsLAQA1A<\/a>.\u00a0 Several of the names from the coffee video are covered here.\u00a0 Actually, watching it, I don\u2019t know whether to laugh or cry.\u00a0 Of course, English, in my opinion, with spellings like \u201crhythm,\u201d \u201cindict,\u201d \u201cgauge,\u201d and \u201cptomaine\u201d hasn\u2019t got a leg to stand on, not to mention odd pairings like \u201ceye\/I\/aye\/fie\/my\/sigh\u201d or \u201ccough\/tough\/though\/through\/bough\/lough.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ainmneacha Pi\u00farat\u00e1nacha:<\/strong> A Boy Named Humiliation: Some Wacky, Cruel, and Bizarre Puritan Names\u00a0<em>By\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/authors.joseph_norwood.html\"><em>Joseph Norwood<\/em><\/a><em> (<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/the_vault\/2013\/09\/13\/puritan_names_lists_of_bizarre_religious_nomenclature_used_by_puritans.html\"><em>http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/the_vault\/2013\/09\/13\/puritan_names_lists_of_bizarre_religious_nomenclature_used_by_puritans.html<\/em><\/a><em>).\u00a0 [Hmm, what if Humiliation\u2019s last name had been \u201cHume\u201d?\u00a0 \u201cHumiliation Hume.\u201d\u00a0 Coincheap suimi\u00fail.\u00a0 And then, if there was ever any ambiguity, you might ask, \u201cTo Hume are you talking?\u201d\u00a0 Anyway, I think if I had that name, I\u2019d pick \u201cHume\u201d as a nickname.\u00a0 Or maybe \u201cMillie,\u201d if the name were given to a girl. \u2013 R\u00f3isl\u00edn]<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-350x270.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-350x270.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-768x593.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-1024x791.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/17\/2018\/08\/irish-names-in-word-cloud-e1535368131421.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Many of you many have seen by now the entertaining new video \u2018When You Order Coffee with an Irish Name,\u2019 which shows a barista in a coffee bar looking baffled by some traditional Irish names (nasc th\u00edos). 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