{"id":1536,"date":"2011-12-21T04:13:14","date_gmt":"2011-12-21T04:13:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=1536"},"modified":"2012-01-01T05:01:02","modified_gmt":"2012-01-01T05:01:02","slug":"cen-sort-sroine-ata-ag-rudolf-cuid-a-tri-33","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/cen-sort-sroine-ata-ag-rudolf-cuid-a-tri-33\/","title":{"rendered":"C\u00e9n S\u00f3rt Sr\u00f3ine At\u00e1 ag R\u00fadolf? (Cuid a Tr\u00ed, 3\/3)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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C\u00e9 leis an tsr\u00f3n seo?<\/p>\n

An le fia\u00a0\u00ed?<\/p>\n

An le r\u00e9infhia\u00a0\u00ed?<\/p>\n

An le R\u00fadolf\u00a0\u00ed?<\/p>\n

An le hainmh\u00ed eile\u00a0\u00ed, madra mar shampla?<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s the last installment of the expanded version of Rudolph questionnaire, first posted in 2009 at https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/ceistiuchan-faoi-rudolf-an-reinfhia\/<\/a>.\u00a0 Today\u2019s blog deals with the original question 12, and now, lo and behold, it takes up blag ioml\u00e1n. \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

But first, let\u2019s look at the word \u201csr\u00f3n\u201d<\/strong> itself:<\/p>\n

an tsr\u00f3n<\/strong> [un trohn, note the \u201cs\u201d has become silent], the nose<\/p>\n

sr\u00f3ine<\/strong> [SROHN-yuh], of (a) nose<\/p>\n

na sr\u00f3ine<\/strong>, of the nose<\/p>\n

sr\u00f3na<\/strong>, noses<\/p>\n

sr\u00f3n<\/strong>, <\/strong>of noses<\/p>\n

In the question below, we see the phrase \u201clena shr\u00f3n\u201d <\/strong>[LEN-uh hrohn, \u201cs\u201d has become silent] which means \u201cwith his nose,\u201d from \u201cle\u201d <\/strong>(with) + \u201ca\u201d <\/strong>(his), plus an \u201c-n-\u201c to separate the vowels.\u00a0 \u201cSr\u00f3n\u201d <\/strong>has become lenited because it follows the word for \u201chis.\u201d<\/p>\n

12. Maidir lena shr\u00f3n, c\u00e9n s\u00f3rt fia at\u00e1 i Rudolf?\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Is fia ______\u00e9.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0(Regarding his nose, what sort of deer is R\u00fadolf?)<\/p>\n

To answer this question, pick the appropriate adjective from the 12 (comhair iad!) below.\u00a0 Of course, some of you may know the answer already, but, what the hey (or should that be f\u00e9ar tirim<\/strong>, i.e. hay, for Rudolph?), there\u2019s some interesting and useful vocabulary as we proceed rhinologically.<\/p>\n

a)\u00a0<\/strong>b\u00e1nsr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

b)biorshr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

c)\u00a0<\/strong>bolgshr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

d)\u00a0<\/strong>caolsr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

e)\u00a0<\/strong>cl\u00famhshr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

f)\u00a0<\/strong>cruinnsocach <\/strong><\/p>\n

g)\u00a0<\/strong>deargshr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

h)\u00a0<\/strong>iomairshr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

i)\u00a0<\/strong>mucshr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

j)sceadsr\u00f3nach\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

k)\u00a0<\/strong>sciansocach<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

l)\u00a0<\/strong>gob-bhu\u00ed (gob<\/strong>, beak)<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s the vocabulary you\u2019ll need to interpret the adjectives, all of which are compound words using either \u201c-sr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u201d (-nosed) or \u201c-socach<\/strong>\u201d (-snouted, -nosed), or in the one case, \u201cgob<\/strong>\u201d (beak, promontory).<\/p>\n

You might be wondering why the word \u201csr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u201d is sometimes, but not always, lenited.\u00a0 It\u2019s because of the so-called d-n-t-l-s rule.\u00a0 If the element preceding \u201csr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u201d ends in any of these consonants (d, n, t, l, s), \u201csr\u00f3nach<\/strong>\u201d isn\u2019t lenited (doesn\u2019t change to \u201cshr\u00f3nach\u201d<\/strong>).\u00a0 Of these\u00a0 examples, this pertains to a, d, and j.\u00a0 The same principle also applies to \u201c-socach<\/strong>,\u201d which could become \u201c-shocach<\/strong>\u201d in other compounds.<\/p>\n

a)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 b\u00e1n<\/strong>, white + sr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

b)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 bior<\/strong>, point + shr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

c)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 bolg<\/strong>, stomach + shr\u00f3nach<\/strong> (although the prefix is \u201cstomach,\u201d this actually refers to a \u201cbottle\u201d shape, as in \u201cm\u00edol m\u00f3r bolgshr\u00f3nach<\/strong>,\u201d a bottlenosed whale, or \u201cdeilf bholgshr\u00f3nach<\/strong>,\u201d a bottlenose dolphin)<\/p>\n

d)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 caol<\/strong>, narrow, thin + sr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

e)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 cl\u00famh<\/strong>, down, feathers, fur, hair (on body) + shr\u00f3nach (refers to \u201can vombat cl\u00famhshr\u00f3nach tuaisceartach<\/strong>,\u201d the northern hairy-nosed wombat)<\/p>\n

f)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 cruinn<\/strong>, round + socach<\/strong><\/p>\n

g)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 dearg<\/strong>, red + shr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

h)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 iomair<\/strong>, ridge + shr\u00f3nach<\/strong> (refers to \u201can nathair shligreach iomairshr\u00f3nach<\/strong>,\u201d the ridge-nosed rattlesnake)<\/p>\n

i)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 muc<\/strong>, pig + shr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

j)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 scead<\/strong>, spot, blaze + sr\u00f3nach<\/strong><\/p>\n

k)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 scian<\/strong>, knife + socach<\/strong><\/p>\n

l)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 gob<\/strong>, beak + b(h)u\u00ed <\/strong>(yellow)<\/p>\n

The answer,\u00a0ar nd\u00f3igh<\/strong>, is \u201cg\u201d:\u00a0Is fia deargshr\u00f3nach \u00e9 R\u00fadolf<\/strong>.\u00a0 Rudolph is a red-nosed reindeer.<\/p>\n

And, by the way, in case you were wondering, \u201csr\u00f3n<\/strong>\u201d and its Welsh equivalent, \u201ctrwyn<\/em>,\u201d are pretty much the odd men out in the Indo-European panorama of words for \u201cnose.\u201d\u00a0 Most of the readily recognizable words are related to Latin \u201cn<\/em>\u0101<\/em>sus<\/em>\u201d (naso<\/em>, Iod\u00e1ilis<\/strong>; nez, <\/strong><\/em>Fraincis<\/strong>; nariz, <\/em>Sp\u00e1innis<\/strong>; n<\/em>\u00e6<\/em>se, <\/em>Danmhairgis<\/strong>; nosu, <\/em>SeanBh\u00e9arla<\/strong>; nozy<\/em>, SeanPhr\u00faisis<\/strong>; n<\/em>\u0101s- \/ n<\/em>\u0101s<\/em>\u0101, Sanscrait<\/strong>, etc.).\u00a0 Apparently the Celtic words are related to Old Celtic *srok-n<\/em>\u0101-<\/em> and the Sanskrit \u201csrakva<\/em>-\u201c (the corner of the mouth).<\/p>\n

And how about an tsr\u00f3n sa phicti\u00far?\u00a0 An sr\u00f3n fia \u00ed? \u00a0N<\/strong>\u00ed hea! \u00a0Is sr\u00f3n madra \u00ed. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sin \u00e9 go dt\u00ed an ch\u00e9ad bhlag eile \u2013 R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

P.S. There is another word for \u201cnose,\u201d in Irish, \u201c<\/strong>gaos\u00e1n,\u201d <\/strong>but I haven\u2019t dealt with it here since it isn\u2019t used much to describe different types of animal noses, at least not i dtearmeola\u00edocht z\u00f3-eola\u00edochta, <\/strong>or since we\u2019ve been dealing with Rudolph, a cryptid, perhaps I should say i dtearmeola\u00edocht criptea-z\u00f3-eola\u00edochta.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) C\u00e9 leis an tsr\u00f3n seo? An le fia\u00a0\u00ed? An le r\u00e9infhia\u00a0\u00ed? An le R\u00fadolf\u00a0\u00ed? An le hainmh\u00ed eile\u00a0\u00ed, madra mar shampla? Here\u2019s the last installment of the expanded version of Rudolph questionnaire, first posted in 2009 at https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/ceistiuchan-faoi-rudolf-an-reinfhia\/.\u00a0 Today\u2019s blog deals with the original question 12, and now, lo and behold, it takes…<\/p>\n

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