{"id":2287,"date":"2012-05-18T15:43:18","date_gmt":"2012-05-18T15:43:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=2287"},"modified":"2012-05-27T16:15:45","modified_gmt":"2012-05-27T16:15:45","slug":"sula-bhfagfaidh-muid-na-liudair","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/sula-bhfagfaidh-muid-na-liudair\/","title":{"rendered":"Sula bhF\u00e1gfaidh Muid Na Li\u00fadair …"},"content":{"rendered":"


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Faoit\u00edn agus Li\u00fadar<\/p><\/div>\n

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I nd\u00e1ir\u00edre, is \u00e9 \u00e1bhar an bhlag seo n\u00e1 “ainmneacha teangacha,”<\/strong> n\u00ed na li\u00fadair iad f\u00e9in.<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Why’s that?\u00a0 I found the word for “coalfish” in quite a few languages, so I figured we could do another match game.\u00a0 Several\u00a0 of the languages have more than one word for “coalfish” so please expect to find several languages mentioned more than once.<\/p>\n

So, really, this blog is more an exercise in t\u00edreola\u00edocht<\/strong> than in bitheola\u00edocht mhuir\u00ed<\/strong>.\u00a0 In almost all cases, a language name in Irish more or less matches the country or region that it comes from, as also happens in English and most other languages.\u00a0 A few prominent exceptions that come to mind are: Gaeilge\/\u00c9ire, B\u00e9arla\/Sasana, Sanscrait\/an India (ainm na teanga \u00f3n bhfocal<\/strong> sa\u1e43sk\u1e5bt\u0101v\u0101k<\/a><\/em>, “caint chaoin<\/strong>“), and Svaih\u00edlis, Ciosvaih\u00edlis\/an Afraic Thoir (ainm na teanga \u00f3n Araibis<\/strong> s\u0101\u1e25il<\/em>, a chialla\u00edonn “teorainn” n\u00f3 “c\u00f3sta”<\/strong>), and I’m sure there are some others.\u00a0 To some extent, “Laidin<\/strong>” follows suit, but that’s really only because we don’t talk much “Latium” (Lazio<\/em> in Iod\u00e1ilis an lae inniu<\/strong>) these days.\u00a0 But the names of most teangacha<\/strong> are based on logainmneacha<\/strong>.\u00a0 Freagra\u00ed<\/strong> can be found th\u00edos, mar is gn\u00e1ch<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Ainm an \u00c9isc<\/strong><\/td>\nAinm na Teanga<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1) sei<\/em><\/td>\na) B\u00e9arla<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
2) swarte koolvis<\/em><\/td>\nb. Gaeilge na hAlban<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
3) glasag<\/em><\/td>\nc) Danmhairgis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
4) levneg<\/em><\/td>\nd) Gaeilge na hAlban<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
5) ufsi<\/em><\/td>\ne) Fraincis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
6) gloshan<\/em><\/td>\nf) Ollainnis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
7) ucsa (n\u00f3 “ucsa” n\u00f3 “ugsa”)<\/em><\/td>\ng) Briot\u00e1inis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
8.) saithe<\/em><\/td>\nh) \u00cdoslainnis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9) carbonero<\/em><\/td>\ni) B\u00e9arla<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10) colin<\/em><\/td>\nj) Sp\u00e1innis<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

I thought I had found the Welsh for “coalfish,” namely “chwitlyn glas<\/em>,” but looking further into that one I find “chwitlyn glas<\/em>” also means “blue whiting” so now I have my doubts.\u00a0 Is a blue whiting the same as a coalfish?\u00a0 An ionann<\/strong> “chwitlyn glas<\/em>” agus “li\u00fadar”?<\/strong>\u00a0 Eolas ag Breatnach ar bith ar an liosta<\/strong>?\u00a0 A blue whiting sounds like a contradiction in terms to me, anyway, but who am I to say?\u00a0 As long as we keep the blue whiting out of the bluing, I guess all will be well.<\/p>\n

With all of these terms available, I suppose we could translate the folk expression “ag breith li\u00fadar go Toraigh<\/strong>” into lots of languages, if we wanted to.\u00a0 But for now, let’s leave the li\u00fadair<\/strong> to Irish, and bid at least a temporary adieu to this topic.\u00a0 Maybe at some future point we can revisit expressions of futility in Irish and\/or other languages.\u00a0 But somehow, I keep finding more, even since the last blog, \u00a0mar shampla “d\u00e1ta\u00ed go Hajar”<\/strong> (for more on this date-growing town in the al-Hasa oasis in eastern Saudi Arabia, see http:\/\/www.saudiaramcoworld.com\/issue\/200404\/.carrying.dates.to.hajar..htm<\/a>).\u00a0 And perhaps one’s mind wanders back to all that beoi<\/strong>r which is being sent “go M\u00fcnchen<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Since they have a nd\u00f3thain beorach<\/strong>, how ’bout scattering c\u00fapla ceaig<\/strong> here and there so we can all partake in its “iarmhairt mh\u00fachta<\/strong>” (quenching effect; I haven’t been able to find an exact equivalent to the compound adjective “thrist-quenching,” aon bhar\u00fail agat<\/strong>?).<\/p>\n

P\u00e9 sc\u00e9al \u00e9, t\u00e1 na freagra\u00ed th\u00edos<\/strong>, and I hope you enjoyed this joint geographic-linguistic undertaking.\u00a0 I’ll certainly look even more carefully next time I’m in a bialann<\/strong> looking at the bia mara<\/strong> on the biachl\u00e1r<\/strong>, especially if it’s in coalfish territory.\u00a0 SGF, R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Freagra\u00ed:<\/strong> 1c) sei<\/em>, Danmhairgis<\/strong> (+ Ioruais, Sualainnis)<\/strong>; 2f, swarte koolvis<\/em>, Ollainnis<\/strong>; 3d) glasag<\/em>, Gaeilge na hAlban<\/strong>; 4g) levneg<\/em>, Briot\u00e1inis<\/strong>; 5h) ufsi<\/em>, \u00cdoslainnis<\/strong>, 6i) gloshan, B\u00e9arla (bunaithe ar an nGaeilge, is d\u00f3cha, Gael-Bh\u00e9arla n\u00f3 B\u00e9arla \u00c9ireannach, mar sin?<\/strong>); 7b. ucsa <\/em>et al., Gaeilge na hAlban<\/strong>; 8a) saithe, B\u00e9arla (\u00f3n SeanLochlainnis<\/strong>, seithr<\/em>, mar<\/strong> “sei<\/em>“); 9j) carbonero<\/em>, Sp\u00e1innis<\/strong>; 10e) colin<\/em>, Fraincis (+ Sp\u00e1innis)<\/strong>, agus<\/strong> “goberge<\/em>” i bhFraincis Cheanada<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Does this mix need adding to?\u00a0 Terminology never ceases, it seems.\u00a0 While this fish is marketed in the U.S. under the official name “pollock” (presumably also as “pollack”), \u00a0in Canada it is marketed as \u00a0“<\/strong>Saithe,” “Pollock,” “Coalfish,” “Boston Bluefish,” and “Big-Eye” (according to http:\/\/www.tradexfoods.com\/fish-species-encyclopedia\/saithe<\/a>)<\/p>\n


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(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) I nd\u00e1ir\u00edre, is \u00e9 \u00e1bhar an bhlag seo n\u00e1 “ainmneacha teangacha,” n\u00ed na li\u00fadair iad f\u00e9in.\u00a0\u00a0 Why’s that?\u00a0 I found the word for “coalfish” in quite a few languages, so I figured we could do another match game.\u00a0 Several\u00a0 of the languages have more than one word for “coalfish” so please expect to…<\/p>\n

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