{"id":2472,"date":"2012-07-04T14:46:32","date_gmt":"2012-07-04T14:46:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=2472"},"modified":"2012-07-16T20:52:39","modified_gmt":"2012-07-16T20:52:39","slug":"tri-bhratach-eire-meiricea-an-bhreatain-bheag-agus-a-ndathanna-flag-colors-cuid-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/tri-bhratach-eire-meiricea-an-bhreatain-bheag-agus-a-ndathanna-flag-colors-cuid-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Tr\u00ed Bhratach (\u00c9ire, Meirice\u00e1, An Bhreatain Bheag) agus a nDathanna (Flag Colors, Cuid 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Once again, we’re at that time of year, i Meirice\u00e1 ar a laghad<\/strong>, when we seem to have flagmania.\u00a0 So it seems to be tr\u00e1th\u00fail<\/strong> to discuss the Irish and American flags, as we have touched on before (naisc th\u00edos)<\/strong>, and this time I’ll also add beag\u00e1n tr\u00e1chtaireachta ar bhratach na Breataine Bige<\/strong>.\u00a0 [NB: Iarsmaoineam<\/strong>h<\/strong>, the Welsh flag will have to be the next blog, since this has become “i bhfad n\u00edos faide<\/strong>” than I thought it would be!]<\/p>\n

So let’s discuss the colors again:<\/p>\n

A. Bratach na h\u00c9ireann:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Bratach na h\u00c9ireann<\/p><\/div>\n

1.\u00a0There are two main words for “green” in Irish but the official one for the flag is\u00a0“uaine<\/strong>” (according to\u00a0Bunreacht na h\u00c9ireann<\/strong>\u00a0and also\u00a0Roinn an Taoisigh<\/strong>).\u00a0 What’s the other?\u00a0\u00a0T\u00e1 an freagra (A1) th\u00edos<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

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Curiously though, the website of Roinn an Taoisigh<\/strong>, in describing the flag, uses the phrase “glasuaithne<\/strong>.”\u00a0 This is both an example of the old spelling (the silent -th- of “uaithne<\/strong>” is normally no longer written) and an interesting example of a compound word where both elements essentially mean “green” but the combined meaning is “vivid green.”\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “Old spelling” here refers to the Irish orthography system until the 1950s, when the “spelling reform” was implemented, eliminating many (but not all!) silent letters.<\/p>\n

The actual publication by Roinn an Taoisigh<\/strong>, called “An Bhratach N\u00e1isi\u00fanta<\/strong>,” however, uses the term as it appears in the modern spelling in Bunreacht na h\u00c9ireann<\/strong>, namely “uaine<\/strong>” (not “uaithne<\/strong>” and not “glasuaithne<\/strong>“).<\/p>\n

By the way, if the Irish flag is draped over a coffin, the green panel is the one that is ag ceann na c\u00f3nra<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

2. The white panel of the Irish flag is described as “b\u00e1n<\/strong>,” straightforwardly enough, but it is worth noting that there are at least two other words for “white” in Irish.\u00a0 Cad iad?\u00a0 Freagra (A2) th\u00edos.<\/strong><\/p>\n

3. The outer panel is officially designated as “flannbhu\u00ed<\/strong>” ( a compound word consisting of flann,<\/strong> red, blood-red + bu\u00ed<\/strong>, yellow).\u00a0\u00a0 In Irish, the word “or\u00e1iste<\/strong>” is primarily used for the fruit itself, or as an explicit political reference (except when an Orangeman, “Or\u00e1isteach<\/strong>,” is referred to as a “Fear Bu\u00ed,<\/strong>” \u00a0the word “bu\u00ed<\/strong>” being literally “yellow”),” ach sin sc\u00e9al eile.\u00a0 Ar nd\u00f3igh, t\u00e1 cine\u00e1l eile de “Yellow Man”<\/strong> (Yallaman) ann freisin ach sin rud eile ar fad, taif\u00ed d\u00e9anta le s\u00edor\u00f3ip \u00f3rga.\u00a0 Fiosrach faoin milse\u00e1n sin?\u00a0 Seo\u00a0 nasc<\/strong>:\u00a0 http:\/\/suite101.com\/article\/historical-candy-yellowman-irish-food-a69639<\/a><\/p>\n

By the way (a d\u00f3<\/strong>!), I hunted high and low for the official Irish for the “fly end” of a flag but found nothing, not even in the Taoiseach<\/strong>‘s website.\u00a0 I assume it would be “ceann eitilte<\/strong>,” but if there’s any Irish-speaking brateola\u00ed<\/strong> or meirgire<\/strong> out there who might know for sure, b\u00ed i dteagmh\u00e1il linn, le do thoil<\/strong>! \u00a0[13 I\u00fail 2012 nuashonr\u00fach\u00e1n: “ciumhais eitilte” (flying edge),\u00a0<\/em>moladh \u00f3 \u00c1ine (an bhean a scr\u00edobhann Mise \u00c1ine,\u00a0http:\/\/miseaine.blogspot.com\/<\/a>)\u00a0agus “ciumhais iochtair” (lower edge) m\u00e1 t\u00e1 an \u00a0bhratach ingearach in ionad a bheith cothrom\u00e1nach — someday we’ll deal with the leathdhosaen or so other meanings of “ciumhais” – l\u00e1 \u00e9igin – R]<\/em><\/p>\n

B. Bratach Mheirice\u00e1<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Bratach na St\u00e1t Aontaithe<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n

1.\u00a0 Which of the various words for “red” in Irish do you think applies best: rua<\/strong> [ROO-uh], dearg<\/strong> [DJAR-ug], flanndearg<\/strong> [FLAHN-DJAR-ug], or corcardhearg<\/strong> [KOR-kur-YAR-ug, note the softening of the ‘-dh-‘ sound].\u00a0 Freagra B1 th\u00edos<\/strong>.<\/div>\n

2. For “white,” the same choice will apply as for Bratach na h\u00c9ireann<\/strong>, which was …\u00a0 (Freagra B2)\u00a0<\/strong> An cuimhin leat \u00e9?<\/strong>)<\/p>\n

3. The word for “blue” is fairly straightforward here, “gorm<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Anyone remember the name of the specific shade of blue designated for flag manufacturers or printers of official American flag memorabilia (Freagra B3<\/strong>)?\u00a0 Leid<\/strong>: the structure of the phrase is similar to another color mentioned in this blog.\u00a0 And no, it’s not “gorm r\u00edoga<\/strong>.”\u00a0 I don’t think that would have gone over too well with the t\u00edrghr\u00e1th\u00f3ir\u00ed in am na R\u00e9abhl\u00f3ide i Meirice\u00e1<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

By the way (a tr\u00ed!<\/strong>), what happened to those country names when we said, “the flag of Ireland,” “the flag of America,” and “the flag of Wales.”\u00a0 All three switch to \u00e1r seanchara, an tuiseal ginideach<\/strong>, to show possession.\u00a0 \u00a0But for na mionruda\u00ed<\/strong>, we’ll have to wait for an blag i ndiaidh an bhlag seo chugainn<\/strong>.\u00a0 Hmm, could I coin a phrase for that, “an t-ar\u00fa bhlag<\/strong>“?\u00a0 B’fh\u00e9idir<\/strong>, since words are being coined a mile a minute these days, what with the nominalization of briathra<\/strong> and the verbification (or verbing) of ainmfhocail<\/strong>.\u00a0 Sometimes that yields strange effects, as you might recall from Calvin and Hobbes, “Verbing weirds language,” which I will further “weirdify” by translating it into Irish as, let’s see, “Diamhra\u00edonn briathr\u00fa teanga<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Doubt you’ll find “Diamhra\u00edonn<\/strong>” as a verb or “briathr\u00fa<\/strong>” as a gerund in most Irish dictionaries, but hopefully the drift is catchable.\u00a0 \u00a0Anyway, \u00a0SGF, R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Freagra\u00ed:<\/strong><\/p>\n

A. 1. “uaine<\/strong>” is used for the flag; “glas<\/strong>” is used for most living or natural things, like duilleoga<\/strong> or f\u00e9ar<\/strong><\/p>\n

A.2. The two other Irish words for “white” are “geal<\/strong>,” and “fionn<\/strong>,” but these usually mean “bright” and “fair\/blond” respectively.<\/p>\n

B.1. The most basic word, “dearg<\/strong>,” is the best choice and appears with reasonable frequency when Bratach Mheirice\u00e1<\/strong> is being discussed in Irish (not all that often, i mo thaith\u00ed f\u00e9in).\u00a0 “Rua<\/strong>” is coppery-red and is used for pingneacha<\/strong> and for gruaig<\/strong> and fionnadh<\/strong>, as well as for actual coppery hues.\u00a0 “Flanndearg<\/strong>” is “fiery red.” and “corcardhearg<\/strong>” is “crimson” (lit. purple-red).\u00a0 Technically, the red of the American flag is called “Old Glory Red,” a specific hue, and in a previous blog (2 I\u00fail 2011) I dubbed it “dearg na Seanghl\u00f3ire<\/strong>,” based on leasainm na brata\u00ed n\u00e1isi\u00fanta i Meirice\u00e1.\u00a0 Gluais\u00edn<\/strong>: fionnadh<\/strong>, fur; gruaig<\/strong>, hair; leasainm<\/strong>, nickname<\/p>\n

B.2. b\u00e1n<\/strong><\/p>\n

B.3. gorm na Seanghl\u00f3ire<\/strong><\/p>\n

Gluais\u00edn don athfhriotal \u00f3<\/strong> Calvin and Hobbes: briathar<\/strong>, (the noun meaning…) “a verb,” here with an improvised gerund (-ing type) ending , so becoming “briathr\u00fa<\/strong>“; diamhair<\/strong>, mysterious, weird, (here with an improvised verbal ending, present tense)<\/p>\n

Naisc do bhlaganna eile ar an \u00e1bhar seo (Bratacha, Dathanna, srl.):<\/strong><\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/amhran-naisiunta-agus-bratach-stait-aontaithe-mheiricea-agus-brateolaiocht-go-ginearalta-the-american-national-anthem-and-flag-and-vexillology-in-general\/<\/a> (2 I\u00fail 2009)<\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/ce-mhead-realta-ce-mhead-riabh\/<\/a> (26 Meitheamh 2011)<\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/agus-aris-eile-ag-comhaireamh-linn\/<\/a> (30 Meitheamh 2011)<\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/dha-bhratach-bratach-na-heireann-agus-bratach-mheiricea\/<\/a> (2 I\u00fail 2011)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Once again, we’re at that time of year, i Meirice\u00e1 ar a laghad, when we seem to have flagmania.\u00a0 So it seems to be tr\u00e1th\u00fail to discuss the Irish and American flags, as we have touched on before (naisc th\u00edos), and this time I’ll also add beag\u00e1n tr\u00e1chtaireachta ar bhratach na Breataine Bige.\u00a0…<\/p>\n

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