{"id":5168,"date":"2014-04-16T22:53:51","date_gmt":"2014-04-16T22:53:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=5168"},"modified":"2014-04-20T20:35:35","modified_gmt":"2014-04-20T20:35:35","slug":"an-ghaeilge-agus-an-iodailis-abaco-go-zombi-i-ngaeilge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/an-ghaeilge-agus-an-iodailis-abaco-go-zombi-i-ngaeilge\/","title":{"rendered":"An Ghaeilge agus an Iod\u00e1ilis: ‘\u00c0baco’ go ‘Zombi’ i nGaeilge"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"An<\/a>

An Iod\u00e1ilis, buaiteoir an chom\u00f3rtais ‘Multilingual Madness’<\/p><\/div>\n

Bh\u00ed an bua ag an Iod\u00e1ilis sa chom\u00f3rtas ‘Buile Ilteangach’ <\/strong>(Multilingual Madness)!\u00a0 Comhghairdeas di agus d\u00e1 foghlaimeoir\u00ed agus d\u00e1 cainteoir\u00ed<\/strong>.\u00a0 So we’ll tip our ‘hata\u00ed’ <\/strong>here to ‘lucht na hIod\u00e1ilise’ <\/strong>with a few Irish words related to ‘an Iod\u00e1il’ <\/strong>and ‘an teanga Iod\u00e1ilise.’<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ar dt\u00fas, t\u00edreola\u00edocht <\/strong>(geography)<\/p>\n

an Iod\u00e1il, <\/strong>(the) Italy.\u00a0 Note that the word ‘the’ is quite common before country names in Irish.\u00a0 It doesn’t bring up issues of “the-ness” and “thelessness” as we’ve recently seen in the media for ‘An \u00dacr\u00e1in<\/strong>.’ Additional examples: An Ghearm\u00e1in, An Sp\u00e1inn, An Iorua, An tSeap\u00e1in, An tS\u00edn, srl.<\/strong><\/p>\n

na hIod\u00e1ile<\/strong>, of (the) Italy; muintir na hIod\u00e1ile<\/strong>,<\/p>\n

an R\u00f3imh<\/strong>, (the) Rome<\/p>\n

na R\u00f3imhe<\/strong>, of (the) Rome; fuar\u00e1in na R\u00f3imhe<\/strong>,<\/p>\n

an Vatac\u00e1in<\/strong>, the Vatican<\/p>\n

Cathair na Vatac\u00e1ine, <\/strong>Vatican City<\/p>\n

A few other Italian cities have recognized Irish names, among them ‘an Vein\u00e9is<\/strong>‘ and ‘Fl\u00f3rans<\/strong>.’\u00a0 ‘Milan’ jumps to the actual Italian, ‘Milano<\/em>,’ so we have, for example, “For\u00f3gra\u00ed Milano<\/strong>,” or for a more contemporary note, ‘faisean Miu Miu mainic\u00edne\u00e1ilte i Milano<\/strong>.’<\/p>\n

And for ‘Naples,’ we apparently have an adjective, ‘Naipleach<\/strong>‘ (Neapolitan), but no separate name for the city itself (Napoli<\/em>).<\/p>\n

Some geographic features, regions and islands of Italy have Irish names, such an Tusc\u00e1in, an tSicil, an tSaird\u00edn, an Veas\u00faiv, an Tibir, <\/strong>and Sciolla agus Cair\u00edbdis<\/strong>. Others don’t (Pompeii, Abruzzi, Capri, srl.). <croitheadh guaill\u00ed Gailleach\/Francach anseo<\/strong>><\/p>\n

Agus anois, st\u00f3rfhocal ginear\u00e1lta <\/strong>(general vocabulary).<\/p>\n

Some Italian words are exactly the same in Irish usage, especially if related to music, e.g. “allegro”<\/strong> and “pizzicato<\/strong>,” which can even be lenited as in “snap-phizzicato<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Outside the music realm there are terms like “espresso l\u00e1idir<\/strong>,” “espresso tathagach<\/strong>,” and “cappuccino<\/strong>.” The “Capuchin monkey,” however, is “monca\u00ed caipis\u00edneach.<\/strong>” \u00a0Both “cappuccino<\/strong>” and “caipis\u00edneach<\/strong>” ultimately come from the Italian ‘capp\u00f9ccio<\/em>‘ (hood), referring to the characteristic brown color of the Capuchin monks’ hooded habits.<\/p>\n

A few Italian words have very minor changes in Irish, especially if they already have vowel harmony: solfat\u00e1ra, strett\u00f3<\/strong> (adding the long marks) and “gondala”<\/strong> (with just a small vowel change)<\/p>\n

Some borrowings get distinctively Irish spellings: \u00e1iria, barat\u00f3n, d\u00edbhseach<\/strong>, and sopr\u00e1n<\/strong>, and outside of the music realm: brocail\u00ed, casa\u00edne, f\u00famar\u00f3l, spaigit\u00ed<\/strong>. With some of these, there’s a good chance that the borrowing is more likely via English than directly from Italian.\u00a0 In many cases, the new spelling now accommodates for Irish vowel harmony.<\/p>\n

And some words, which in English are clearly Italian borrowings, get completely reformatted for Irish:<\/p>\n

“cicisbeo” becomes “leann\u00e1n<\/strong>”<\/p>\n

“falsetto”\u00a0 becomes “cuach<\/strong>” for the voice or “cuacha\u00ed<\/strong>” for the singer; not surprisingly, the term “falsetto<\/strong>” itself can also be used<\/p>\n

An actual “stiletto<\/em>” (knife) is a “miod\u00f3g<\/strong>,” which also means “dagger,” but in fashion, for heels, there’s an adaptation, “st\u00edl\u00edn<\/strong>”<\/p>\n

“zucchini” becomes “c\u00fairs\u00e9ad<\/strong>,” clearly closer to the word used in Irish and British English for this vegetable, “courgette.”\u00a0 “Zucchini,” though, is a nice reminder of the Italian word “zucca<\/em>” (gourd, pumpkin, squash), of which it is a diminutive.<\/p>\n

Sadly, to me at least, that archetypically Italianish adjective, ‘funicular’ (cf. ‘funicula<\/em>,’ ‘fune<\/em>,’ rope, cable) just becomes the prosaic ‘c\u00e1blach’ <\/strong>in Irish.\u00a0 <\/strong>Logical enough, for a funicular (cable-based) railway, but somehow it seems to lack‘<\/em>un certo non-so-che<\/em> .<\/em><\/strong>‘ Now I’d love to see “funicula<\/em>” with an Irish adjective ending, but it doesn’t really seem to be in the cards, or at least not in the dictionaries. \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Finally, let’s look at a few words that happen to be similar in Italian and in Irish, but more from common linguistic ancestors than from direct borrowing:<\/p>\n

abacas<\/strong>, abacus.\u00a0 Iod\u00e1ilis<\/strong>: \u00e0baco<\/strong>.\u00a0 This word is probably similar in many languages, but I venture to guess that only Irish and its sister tongue, Scottish Gaelic, have the “t-” prefix giving us the additional form “an t-abacas<\/strong>” (the abacus).\u00a0 Hmm, maybe Manx as well, I’ll have to hunt for that one.<\/p>\n

zomba\u00ed<\/strong>, zombie. Iod\u00e1ilis: zombi<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Bhuel, sin \u00e9, comhghairdeas ar\u00eds leis an Iod\u00e1ilis agus seo c\u00fapla d\u00f3igh le<\/strong> “to tip the hat” a r\u00e1 i dteangacha eile<\/strong>:\u00a0 “levarsi il cappello”<\/em> (Iod\u00e1ilis)<\/strong>, “tirar o chap\u00e9u<\/em>” (Portaing\u00e9ilis)<\/strong>, and “tocarse el sombrero<\/em>” (Sp\u00e1innis)<\/strong>.\u00a0 And the Irish for that appears to be “do l\u00e1mh a chur i do hata do dhuine.”\u00a0 <\/strong>Hmm, that’s a little hard to acronymize (like “HT” in English), but I’ll have to keep my eyes peeled for examples.\u00a0 Can’t say I’ve really encountered that phrase much in daily life, though.\u00a0 Maybe because more people wear caip\u00edn\u00ed <\/strong>these days and they don’t “tip” them.\u00a0 Or maybe the Quaker practice of not doffing one’s hat has finally become entrenched (for a quick glance at the issue in history, check out http:\/\/www.jonwatts.com\/dont-doff-your-hat-lyrics-listen\/).\u00a0 P\u00e9 sc\u00e9al \u00e9, sin \u00e9 don bhlag seo.\u00a0 – R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

N\u00f3ta: <\/strong>My study of all the modern Romance languages is fairly limited, so any usage tips from readers would be appreciated.\u00a0 I’ve cross-checked the phrases in Italian and other languages with various dictionaries, online and hard-copy, but from my experience with Irish, I know that these sources can sometimes lead us up (or down) the garden path.\u00a0 Or as might be said in Irish, it can put the “dallamull\u00f3g<\/strong>” on us.\u00a0 “Dallamull\u00f3g<\/strong>“?\u00a0 It means “deception” and “delusion,” and, in the right context, “blindness in sheep.”<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Bh\u00ed an bua ag an Iod\u00e1ilis sa chom\u00f3rtas ‘Buile Ilteangach’ (Multilingual Madness)!\u00a0 Comhghairdeas di agus d\u00e1 foghlaimeoir\u00ed agus d\u00e1 cainteoir\u00ed.\u00a0 So we’ll tip our ‘hata\u00ed’ here to ‘lucht na hIod\u00e1ilise’ with a few Irish words related to ‘an Iod\u00e1il’ and ‘an teanga Iod\u00e1ilise.’ Ar dt\u00fas, t\u00edreola\u00edocht (geography) an Iod\u00e1il, (the) Italy.\u00a0 Note that…<\/p>\n

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