{"id":5343,"date":"2014-06-09T15:55:34","date_gmt":"2014-06-09T15:55:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=5343"},"modified":"2018-02-27T08:01:09","modified_gmt":"2018-02-27T08:01:09","slug":"sula-bhfagann-muid-na-fritiortha-before-we-leave-the-antipodes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/sula-bhfagann-muid-na-fritiortha-before-we-leave-the-antipodes\/","title":{"rendered":"Sula bhf\u00e1gann muid na Frit\u00edortha (Before we leave the Antipodes)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"An<\/a>

An tOile\u00e1n Thuaidh (dath: dearg) agus An tOile\u00e1n Theas (dath: liath), An Nua-Sh\u00e9alainn (foinse: nasc th\u00edos)<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n

In this blog we’ll take a last look at some geographical terms pertaining to New Zealand, including the interpretation of “Aotearoa,” as mentioned in the last blog.\u00a0 All of the words in today’s basic vocabulary also have wide applications for conversation in general.\u00a0 We’ll be looking at the following words:<\/p>\n

t\u00edr<\/strong>, land, country, and talamh<\/strong>, land, ground<\/p>\n

scamall<\/strong>, cloud (a cognate of “cumulus,” although the specific meteorological term for “cumulus” in Irish is actually a more recent borrowing, “cumalas<\/strong>“)<\/p>\n

fada<\/strong>, long<\/p>\n

b\u00e1n<\/strong>, white<\/p>\n

oile\u00e1n<\/strong>, island; “inis<\/strong>” is used for some islands (Inis Fada<\/strong> [sic] in New York, for example) but not for New Zealand’s two main islands.<\/p>\n

thuaidh<\/strong> [HOO-ee, silent “t”], north<\/p>\n

theas\u00a0<\/strong>[hass, silent “t”], south<\/p>\n

First we’ll return to the question raised one blog back: What does the Maori name for New Zealand, “Aotearoa,” mean if translated literally into Irish?<\/p>\n

I’ve included “t\u00edr<\/strong>” since many interpretations of “Aotearoa” seem to slightly extend the concept to mean “Land of the Long White Cloud.”\u00a0 Apparently, though, it’s really just “long white cloud” (no “land of”), which is the most popularly agreed upon interpretation of the name.<\/p>\n

T\u00edr an Scamaill Fhada Bh\u00e1in<\/strong> OR Talamh an Scamaill Fhada Bh\u00e1in<\/strong>.\u00a0 Hmm, perhaps it should be “talamh<\/strong>,” by analogy with “Talamh an \u00c9isc<\/strong>” (lit. the land of the fish), the Irish name for Newfoundland.<\/p>\n

Either way, if we’re including “land of,” the “long white cloud” part will be in the genitive case (an tuiseal ginideach<\/strong>), which involves some changes to “scamall<\/strong>,” “fada<\/strong>,” and “b\u00e1n<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

1) scamall<\/strong> becomes “scamaill<\/strong>,” with an inserted “i” (slenderization\/ caol\u00fa<\/strong>)<\/p>\n

2) fada<\/strong> [FAH-duh] becomes “fhada<\/strong>” [AH-duh] with lenition (s\u00e9imhi\u00fa<\/strong>)<\/p>\n

3) b\u00e1n<\/strong> [bawn] becomes “bh\u00e1in<\/strong>” [wawn].\u00a0 A little more specifically, it sounds like “wawin” with a slight change to the final “n,” making it more of an “in” sound.\u00a0 Remember, though, this is quite subtle, not like, hmm, “Put your paw<\/em> in<\/em> mine”\u00a0 Not that I have paws (lapa\u00ed!<\/strong>)–that’s just an example of where the “-aw” and the “in” sounds are more separated.\u00a0\u00a0 Why “bh\u00e1in<\/strong>“?\u00a0 S\u00e9imhi\u00fa<\/strong> at the beginning, typical for marking the genitive case; the slender “n” also marks the genitive case.<\/p>\n

And secondly, let’s look at one last set of geographical phrases for New Zealand: \u00a0An tOile\u00e1n Thuaidh and An tOile\u00e1n Theas<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

An tOile\u00e1n Thuaidh<\/strong> means “the North Island.”\u00a0 You might have noticed the prefixed “t” at the beginning of “oile\u00e1n<\/strong>,” kept lower case even in a proper name.\u00a0\u00a0 That’s a general rule that applies to nouns that are masculine, singular and start with a vowel, when they come after the word “the.”\u00a0 You’ve probably seen it before (uisce, an t-uisce; \u00fall, an t-\u00fall; \u00dall M\u00f3r, an t\u00dall M\u00f3r; \u00dacr\u00e1nach, an t\u00dacr\u00e1nach; Ugandach, an tUgandach, srl.<\/strong>)<\/p>\n

“Thuaidh<\/strong>” means “north” or “northern” and is related to words like “tuaisceart<\/strong>” (a northern area), “Tuaisceart \u00c9ireann<\/strong>” (Northern Ireland), Tuaisceartach<\/strong> (Northerner), tuaithi\u00far<\/strong> (northerly aspect), aduaidh<\/strong> (from the north), and \u00f3 thuaidh<\/strong> (to the north, with “\u00f3”<\/strong> which ironically looks like it should mean “from”).\u00a0 It’s used in place names like “An Ch\u00f3ir\u00e9 Thuaidh<\/strong>” and “An Mhuir Thuaidh<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

“Theas<\/strong>” means “south” or “southern” and is related to words like deisceart<\/strong>\u00a0(a southern area), Ndeib\u00e9ilis an Deiscirt<\/strong> (Southern Ndebele, a South African language), Deisceart Chorca\u00ed<\/strong> (South Cork), Deisceartach<\/strong> (Southerner), deisi\u00far<\/strong> (southerly aspect), aneas<\/strong> (from the south), and \u00f3 dheas<\/strong> (to the south, with the same ironic “\u00f3”<\/strong> as “\u00f3 thuaidh<\/strong>“).\u00a0 It’s used in place names like “An Afraic Theas<\/strong>” and “An Ch\u00f3ir\u00e9 Theas<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

So “An tOile\u00e1n Thuaidh<\/strong>” and “An tOile\u00e1n Theas<\/strong>” are quite predictable and straightforward as place names.\u00a0 I understand that there is a lot of debate as to whether one really says “the North Island” and “the South Island,” or just “North Island” and “South Island.”\u00a0 I’ll just compromise by offering both options.\u00a0 For “North Island” and “South Island,” we just drop the “an<\/strong>” (the) and the prefixed “t-” that it triggered: Oile\u00e1n Thuaidh<\/strong> and Oile\u00e1n Theas<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

I hope you’ll find some application for these words, even when not talking about An Nua-Sh\u00e9alainn<\/strong>, for example: Bost\u00fan Theas, An Trian Theas<\/strong> (the South Riding), An Pol Theas (“Dia dhuit, a Roald!”)<\/strong>, and An Tior\u00f3il Theas <\/strong>(geoidil-\u00ed-h\u00ed-h\u00ed<\/strong>, to coin a phrase).\u00a0 On the northerly side, we have, for example, \u00a0Filideilfia Thuaidh, An Trian Thuaidh, An Pol Thuaidh (“Dia dhuit, a Roibeaird, a Mhaiti\u00fa, a Ootah, a Seeglo (a Sheeglo?), a Egingwah, agus a Ooqueah”)<\/strong>, and m\u00edol m\u00f3r socach na Mara Thuaidh<\/strong>.\u00a0 That latter phrase might not be as transparent as “An Pol Theas<\/strong>” but, rest assured, it’s a whale of a topic.\u00a0 Hunh?\u00a0 Aistri\u00fach\u00e1n th\u00edos<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Maybe some day we’ll tackle another New Zealand place name, “Taumata\u00adwhakatangihanga\u00adkoauau\u00ado\u00adtamatea\u00adturi\u00adpukakapiki\u00admaunga\u00adhoro\u00adnuku\u00adpokai\u00adwhenua\u00adkitanatahu”(aka Taumata), but, once again, that’ll have to be \u00e1bhar blag eile<\/strong>. \u00a0SGF – R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

N\u00f3ta<\/strong>: m\u00edol m\u00f3r socach na Mara Thuaidh<\/strong>, lit. beaked whale of the North Sea.\u00a0 So, “beaked,” an ea<\/strong>?\u00a0\u00a0 “Socach<\/strong>” also means “snouted” (!).\u00a0 I guess every mammal has some kind of snout, be it a “geanc<\/strong>” or a “crom\u00f3g<\/strong>.” \u00a0“Socach<\/strong>,” the adjective, comes from “soc<\/strong>,” which has many meanings, including “projecting end,” “nose” (after “sr\u00f3n<\/strong>” and “gaos\u00e1n<\/strong>“), “nozzle,” “muzzle,” and “beak,” as well as “snout.”\u00a0 Remember all those muzzled calves we discussed way back when?\u00a0 It was in https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/clasail-choibhneasta-neamhdhireacha-redux-an-briathar-%E2%80%9Cdean%E2%80%9D-and-about-8-more-briathra-neamhrialta-to-go\/<\/em> (26 Feabhra 2010<\/strong>). \u00a0“D\u00e9anann s\u00ed soc don lao<\/strong>.”\u00a0 “Seo \u00ed an bhean a dh\u00e9anann soc don lao<\/strong>.”\u00a0 “Seo \u00ed an bhean a nd\u00e9anfaidh a hin\u00edon soc don lao<\/strong>.”\u00a0 ‘A, ‘sea<\/strong>, the theme of that blog (t\u00e9ama an bhlag sin<\/strong>) was actually “cl\u00e1sail choibhneasta<\/strong>” (relative clauses), not “soic<\/strong>” as such.\u00a0 But we got a lot of mileage out of “na soic sin<\/strong>,” nach bhfuair (a \u00c1ine \u00f3 “Mise\u00c1ine”<\/strong>)?<\/p>\n

Kudos to anyone who can send in the formal name for this whale.\u00a0 Leid<\/strong>: it’s named after a person.\u00a0 Leid eile<\/strong>: the person’s (unintentional) namesake is a character in Frances Hodgson Burnett’s The Secret Garden<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Gluais\u00edn don n\u00f3ta: crom\u00f3g<\/strong>, aquiline nose; geanc<\/strong>, snub-nose<\/p>\n

Nasc don mhapa:<\/strong>\u00a0http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/North_Island,_New_Zealand#mediaviewer\/File:New_Zealand_North_Island.png<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) In this blog we’ll take a last look at some geographical terms pertaining to New Zealand, including the interpretation of “Aotearoa,” as mentioned in the last blog.\u00a0 All of the words in today’s basic vocabulary also have wide applications for conversation in general.\u00a0 We’ll be looking at the following words: t\u00edr, land, country…<\/p>\n

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