{"id":5950,"date":"2014-11-22T16:05:53","date_gmt":"2014-11-22T16:05:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=5950"},"modified":"2014-12-22T16:07:37","modified_gmt":"2014-12-22T16:07:37","slug":"monog-the-irish-for-cranberry-bogberry-and-mossberry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/monog-the-irish-for-cranberry-bogberry-and-mossberry\/","title":{"rendered":"M\u00f3n\u00f3g, the Irish for Cranberry, Bogberry, and Mossberry"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I’ve long been intrigued by the definition of “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” both as “cranberry” and “bogberry.” Intrigued for two reasons. One, because I’ve never noticed any great emphasis on cranberries in traditional Irish cooking or in the Irish diet, and yet the word “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” is certainly not simply a phonetic adaptation of “cranberry,” the way “ceibeab<\/strong>” is for “kebab” or “citsire<\/strong>” is for “kedgeree.”<\/p>\n

The other reason I’ve been so intrigued by “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” is that I’ve never observed much discussion of “bogberries,” period. And yet “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” is a very logical counterpart to “bogberry,” since it’s based on “m\u00f3in<\/strong>” (peat, turf, sometimes translated as the peat-bog itself).<\/p>\n

More recently, I noticed that there is a third possible translation of “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>,” still in the realm of food, which is “mossberry.” This term is mentioned as being typically used in Canada and Scotland and it also appears to be a somewhat dated term in Irish English. I say “dated” because I don’t see “mossberry” in any of the modern dictionaries I have to hand, Irish or English. Presumably this use of “moss-” is the same “moss” as in Seamus Heaney’s home of “Mossbawn,” where “moss” means “bog,” not the plant. Moss, as a plant, is “caonach<\/strong>” in Irish, a completely different topic.<\/p>\n

I suppose numbers can always contribute to such a discussion. Here are the relevant hits (unsorted or filtered) for today’s discussion (cuardach Google<\/strong>):<\/p>\n

61,800,000: cranberry<\/p>\n

35,400: mossberry (which includes several thousand hits for “Mossberry Ethical Boutique” in London, which don’t really count for the discussion of the berries themselves. Looks like a really cool place to shop, though (www.mossberryonline.com\/shop\/).<\/p>\n

11,000: bogberry<\/p>\n

And now, when we look for the Irish:<\/p>\n

7050: m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, this search sorts down to 177 when you start going through it, which is actually more like what I expected<\/p>\n

522: m\u00f3n\u00f3ga<\/strong>, cranberries (including a couple for the music group, The Cranberries; this reduces to 74 when filtered for duplicates, etc.<\/p>\n

63: na m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong> (of the cranberries); sorts down to 17, of which “Loch na M\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” (Lough Namanoga, Co. Galway), is one of the most interesting.<\/p>\n

9: mh\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong> (as in “an mh\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>,” the cran-\/moss-\/bogberry)<\/p>\n

0: na m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong> (of the cranberry)<\/p>\n

Just for comparison, I also tried Googling a type of berry that’s much more prominent in Irish tradition, the “fraoch\u00e1n<\/strong>” (bilberry aka blaeberry plus many other names in English). This gets 50,900 hits, unsorted.\u00a0\u00a0 The genitive singular (an fhraoch\u00e1in<\/strong>, of the bilberry), gets 248, sorting to 33, but still a lot more than “na m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong>,” which got zero. Genitive plural (na bhfraoch\u00e1n<\/strong>, of the bilberries), gets 551, sorting down to 92, again not a whole lot, but significantly more than our phrase for “of the cranberries.”<\/p>\n

So the trend, at least, is clear. Although a berry similar to the American cranberry grows in Ireland, it’s not as significant in Irish tradition as some other types of berry, like the bilberry (fraoch\u00e1n<\/strong>). And the Irish language usage for these berries, at least as searchable online, reflects the reality of their use. Bilberries are widely used in general, but also get a special boost because of their role in the traditional L\u00fanasa (Lughnasa)<\/strong> celebrations, so their numbers are much higher.<\/p>\n

In contrast, a lot of references to m\u00f3n\u00f3ga<\/strong> online are actually descriptions of American Thanksgiving Day meals, probably used or created more by Irish-Americans or Irish people in America than within Ireland.<\/p>\n

Having said that cranberries never seemed very prominent in Irish cuisine, I did just spot this oideas<\/strong> (recipe) for Apple and Cranberry Crumble on the BBC website, Greim Gasta<\/strong> (lit. “a quick bite”): http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/irish\/articles\/view\/1257\/english\/. In Irish, that dessert is “mionbhruar \u00fall agus m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>,” with both “\u00fall<\/strong>” and “m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>” sa tuiseal ginideach, iolra<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

It’s interesting to note that the chef, \u00c9amonn \u00d3 Cath\u00e1in comments: “In Ireland, cranberries have become very popular, joining blueberries and pomegranates in the \u2018superfood\u2019 stakes, so here\u2019s an idea for an apple and cranberry crumble, should the notion take you.”<\/p>\n

Note the use of the verb “have become,” supporting my earlier comment that m\u00f3n\u00f3ga<\/strong> aren’t particularly traditional in the Irish diet. “Have become” implies a recent trend.<\/p>\n

To wrap up, let’s look at some of the forms of the word “cranberry” in Irish. Most of them were mentioned above, describing the searches:<\/p>\n

an mh\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong> [un WOH-nohgg], the cranberry<\/p>\n

m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong>, of a cranberry; dath m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong>, color of a cranberry<\/p>\n

na m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong> [… MOH-noh-ig-yuh], of the cranberry. If we said “s\u00fa na m\u00f3n\u00f3ige<\/strong>,” it would refer to the amount of juice that could be squeezed from one cranberry, probably minuscule.<\/p>\n

na m\u00f3n\u00f3ga<\/strong>, the cranberries<\/p>\n

m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, of cranberries; s\u00fa m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, juice of cranberries; anlann m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, sauce of cranberries<\/p>\n

na m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, of the cranberries; note the lack of any ending, typical of nouns of this category (2nd declension); s\u00fa na m\u00f3n\u00f3g seo<\/strong>, the juice of these cranberries<\/p>\n

As for the relative less frequency of discussing “bogberries” or “mossberries,” especially in the culinary context, it’s an interesting question. Somehow, the idea of marketing “bogberry juice” or “sweetened dried bogberries” doesn’t seem particularly appealing, i mo bhar\u00fail f\u00e9in, p\u00e9 sc\u00e9al \u00e9<\/strong>. Nor does mossberry. But these berries could be “blasta<\/strong>” as well as “cothaitheach<\/strong>” (or beath\u00fail<\/strong> or scamhardach<\/strong> or scamhard\u00fail<\/strong>). And, after all, that’s the reason that cranberries are so popular in the U.S., and growing in popularity in Ireland. Bain sult as do chuid anlann m\u00f3n\u00f3g<\/strong>, if you’ll be eating a traditional Thanksgiving meal on the 27th. SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) I’ve long been intrigued by the definition of “m\u00f3n\u00f3g” both as “cranberry” and “bogberry.” Intrigued for two reasons. One, because I’ve never noticed any great emphasis on cranberries in traditional Irish cooking or in the Irish diet, and yet the word “m\u00f3n\u00f3g” is certainly not simply a phonetic adaptation of “cranberry,” the way…<\/p>\n

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