{"id":6170,"date":"2015-01-18T21:07:30","date_gmt":"2015-01-18T21:07:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=6170"},"modified":"2015-06-21T15:34:45","modified_gmt":"2015-06-21T15:34:45","slug":"chocolate-redux-well-not-really-re-ducks-but-re-eggs-and-such-chocolate-terms-in-irish","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/chocolate-redux-well-not-really-re-ducks-but-re-eggs-and-such-chocolate-terms-in-irish\/","title":{"rendered":"Chocolate Redux (well, not really re: ducks, but re: eggs and such): Chocolate Terms in Irish"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

I see that the chocolate blog in this series just popped up again on our Facebook site (https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/learn.irish; bun-nasc th\u00edos<\/strong>).\u00a0 So I thought it would fun to try some more phrases involving many people’s favorite “bia compoird<\/strong>” — seacl\u00e1id.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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One of the first things to remember is that when we’re describing something made “of chocolate,” the form of the word will be either “seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” [SHAK-lawdj-uh] or “sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” [HAK-lawdj-uh].\u00a0 When do we use which?\u00a0 It depends on “inscne<\/strong>” (gender), in the grammatical sense, and “uimhir<\/strong>” (number, i.e. singular or plural).\u00a0\u00a0 Sampla\u00ed?\u00a0 Seo iad:<\/strong><\/p>\n

coin\u00edn seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>, a chocolate bunny<\/p>\n

We use “seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” (with the regular “s”) because “coin\u00edn<\/strong>” is grammatically masculine, even if we’re talking about a female rabbit.\u00a0 In Irish, a female rabbit is “coin\u00edn baineann<\/strong>” — the regular word for “doe” (female deer) is “eilit<\/strong>,” but that doesn’t apply to female rabbits, the way it does in English.\u00a0 BTW, the male rabbit, the “buck” in English, is simply “coin\u00edn fireann<\/strong>” (male rabbit), in Irish.\u00a0 At any rate, we use “seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” for either type of “coin\u00edn<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

And how would we say “the chocolate bunny”? \u00a0Care to fill in the blank?<\/p>\n

1) _____\u00a0 + coin\u00edn seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>.\u00a0\u00a0 Do we need to make any changes to the “chocolate” or “bunny” part of the phrase?\u00a0 Freagra\u00ed th\u00edos.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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An taobh amuigh agus an taobh istigh d’ubh uachtair Cadbury (Attribution: By Evan-Amos (Own work) [CC0], via Wikimedia Commons)<\/p><\/div>And next, how about a chocolate egg, \u00e0 la the cr\u00e8me de la cr\u00e8me of chocolate eggs, the Cadbury “creme egg.”\u00a0 The Cadbury creme egg has recently made global headlines (OK, minor, but still global) because of the company’s decision to change the formula for the chocolate shell (mo sheacht mallacht ar an gcinneadh sin!<\/strong>) and to reduce the number of “uibheacha<\/strong>” in a package without a “laghd\u00fa comhr\u00e9ireach<\/strong>” in the price.\u00a0 And by the way, I just double-checked Cadbury’s website to be sure, but, yes, we have no “graif<\/strong>” (grave accent) on the first “e” of “creme” for the chocolate product.\u00a0 So I can say “cr\u00e8me de la cr\u00e8me” to describe the egg, but just “creme” for the egg itself.\u00a0 So here, Cadbury joins Lands’ End [sic], H\u00e4agen-Dazs, and King’s Cross\/Kings Cross with weird or idiosyncratic diacritical\/punctuation stuff going on, but, well, its’, \u00fa\u00faps<\/strong>, its, \u00fa\u00faps<\/strong>, it’s their corporate decision.<\/p>\n

Anyway, the distinctive feature of Cadbury’s creme egg is its interior which is dyed to look like it has both the “gealac\u00e1n<\/strong>” and the “bu\u00edoc\u00e1n<\/strong>” as a real egg would.\u00a0 Cliste!<\/strong>\u00a0 Most of the uibheacha seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> sold in the U.S. are, fad m’eolais<\/strong>, either “cuasach<\/strong>” (hollow) or “soladach<\/strong>” (solid, i.e. seacl\u00e1id ar fad a bh\u00edonns ann, gan “uachtar” mar l\u00edonadh<\/strong>).\u00a0\u00a0 Some smallish ones might have a cream filling, but I’ve never seen an American brand chocolate Easter egg that shows the “yolk.”<\/p>\n

Getting back to grammar, “ubh<\/strong>” (egg) is a feminine noun, so we have:<\/p>\n

ubh sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (with lenition)<\/p>\n

And, for some practice with the word “the,” can you make any necessary changes for these phrases (freagra\u00ed th\u00edos<\/strong>):<\/p>\n

2) ____\u00a0 +\u00a0 ubh sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>, the chocolate egg<\/p>\n

3) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 s\u00edor\u00f3ip sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>, the chocolate syrup<\/p>\n

4) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 \u00e9adrom\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>, the chocolate \u00e9clair<\/p>\n

5) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 c\u00far\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>, the chocolate souffl\u00e9<\/p>\n

And how about the plural forms?\u00a0 Piece o’ cake (c\u00edste seacl\u00e1ide, ar nd\u00f3igh!)<\/strong><\/p>\n

briosca\u00ed seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong><\/p>\n

c\u00far\u00f3ga seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong><\/p>\n

uibheacha seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong><\/p>\n

scealla\u00ed seacl\u00e1ide (<\/strong>aka c\u00e1ithn\u00edn\u00ed seacl\u00e1ide)<\/strong><\/p>\n

donn\u00f3ga seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong><\/p>\n

No change to the initial “s” in those examples, which included two masculine nouns (briosca, sceall<\/strong> aka c\u00e1ithn\u00edn<\/strong>) and three feminine nouns (c\u00far\u00f3g, donn\u00f3g, ubh<\/strong>).\u00a0 In Irish, gender doesn’t typically\u00a0create a change\u00a0for the adjective in the plural.<\/p>\n

But wait, there’s more (hmm, there s’more?! — since we’re talking chocolate!).\u00a0 What if we have a noun like “cup\u00e1n<\/strong>” or “m\u00fas<\/strong>,” which become “cup\u00e1in<\/strong>” and “m\u00fais<\/strong>” when they’ re plural and the subject of a sentence?\u00a0 Ah, a nicey-wicey little rule comes in.\u00a0 “Nicey-wicey”?\u00a0 In ainm D\u00e9!\u00a0 Bhuel, nod don Docht\u00fair at\u00e1 ann.\u00a0\u00a0 C\u00e9n Docht\u00fair, bhuel, sin \u00e1bhar blag eile.<\/strong><\/p>\n

So we have the plural forms “cup\u00e1in<\/strong>” and “m\u00fais<\/strong>” [moosh], which have an “i” before the final consonant.\u00a0 That “i” makes a difference.\u00a0 The “i” makes the final consonant sound “slender,” like “KUP-aw-in” for “cup\u00e1in<\/strong>” (not “KUP-awn”) and “moosh” for “m\u00fais<\/strong>” (not “moos,” sounding like “moose,” the animal).<\/p>\n

If the cups or the mousse are made of chocolate, the phrases become “cup\u00e1in sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” and “m\u00fais sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>.”\u00a0 That’s the rule — masculine plural nouns with a slender ending trigger lenition, in this case, “s” becoming “sh” in spelling, with just the “h” actually pronounced.\u00a0 The “cup” here refers, of course, to the little chocolate cups used in dessert-making, not, of course to cups or mugs for drinking tea or coffee.\u00a0 Those would be as much use as, say, a chocolate teapot.\u00a0 Chomh h\u00fas\u00e1ideach le taephota seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>.\u00a0 Not to mention being “chomh haisteach le hor\u00e1iste tochrais<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Useful or not, I see various people have experimented with making chocolate teapots, mostly to eat, but one chocolatier, John Costello (nice Irish surname!) has actually created a functional chocolate teapot, which can brew for about 2 minutes.\u00a0 I guess if you pour the hot water out quick enough, the taephota seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> will retain its shape.\u00a0 Reminiscent of baking ice-cream, as in “Alasca B\u00e1c\u00e1ilte<\/strong>.”\u00a0 An nasc:<\/strong>\u00a0 http:\/\/www.nestle.com\/media\/news\/nestle-master-chocolatier-makes-chocolate-teapot<\/p>\n

A cup of hot chocolate (le n-\u00f3l<\/strong>) would usually be “cup\u00e1n seacl\u00e1id the<\/strong>,” following the new-ish pattern in Irish that genitive case forms aren’t used if the noun phrase is indefinite.\u00a0\u00a0 The new rule is still somewhat in flux, but gaining ground.\u00a0 Anything to minimize genitive-case constructions, some might say.\u00a0 Moi?<\/em>\u00a0 Gr\u00e1 mo chro\u00ed an tuiseal ginideach, ach d\u00e9arfainn nach motha\u00edonn m\u00f3r\u00e1n daoine mar sin.<\/strong>\u00a0 I cut my teeth on the genitive case, so to speak, studying Latin as a teenager, so I actually enjoyed bouncing from nominative singular to genitive plural and vice versa and inside out. \u00a0But I think I may be in the minority with that.<\/p>\n

To wrap up, the word “seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>” (of chocolate) changes form slightly depending on what it’s modifying: coin\u00edn seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (masculine), ubh sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (feminine), briosca\u00ed seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (masculine plural), donn\u00f3ga seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (feminine plural), m\u00fais sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (masculine plural with lenition).\u00a0 Having worked your way through all of that, maybe it’s time for a “sneaic.”\u00a0 SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nasc<\/strong>: Seacl\u00e1id (Chocolate): An Bia Compoird Is Fearr?<\/a> Posted on 21. Apr, 2014 by\u00a0r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a>\u00a0in\u00a0Irish Language<\/a> (https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/seaclaid-chocolate-an-bia-compoird-is-fearr\/)<\/p>\n

Freagra\u00ed:<\/strong><\/p>\n

1) ___\u00a0 + coin\u00edn seacl\u00e1ide: an coin\u00edn seacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (no changes)<\/p>\n

2) ___\u00a0 +\u00a0 ubh sheacl\u00e1ide: an ubh sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (no changes)<\/p>\n

3) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 s\u00edor\u00f3ip sheacl\u00e1ide: an ts\u00edor\u00f3ip sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (the usual t-prefixing, as in “an tsr\u00e1id<\/strong>” and “an ts\u00fail<\/strong>“)<\/p>\n

4) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 \u00e9adrom\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>: \u00a0an \u00e9adrom\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (no changes)<\/p>\n

5) ___\u00a0\u00a0 +\u00a0 c\u00far\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong>: an ch\u00far\u00f3g sheacl\u00e1ide<\/strong> (the usual lenition, with “c” becoming “ch”)<\/p>\n

Gluais\u00edn:<\/strong> aisteach<\/strong>, strange, unusual; donn\u00f3g<\/strong>, brownie (food); \u00e9adrom\u00f3g<\/strong>, \u00e9clair; tochras<\/strong>, winding, winding up.\u00a0 Together with “or\u00e1iste<\/strong>” (orange), it could be translated as, bhuel<\/strong> … got it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) I see that the chocolate blog in this series just popped up again on our Facebook site (https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/learn.irish; bun-nasc th\u00edos).\u00a0 So I thought it would fun to try some more phrases involving many people’s favorite “bia compoird” — seacl\u00e1id…<\/p>\n

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