{"id":7728,"date":"2016-03-06T16:06:21","date_gmt":"2016-03-06T16:06:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=7728"},"modified":"2016-03-14T08:08:54","modified_gmt":"2016-03-14T08:08:54","slug":"25-ways-to-say-family-in-irish-cuid-a-ceathair-pt-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/25-ways-to-say-family-in-irish-cuid-a-ceathair-pt-4\/","title":{"rendered":"25 Ways to Say ‘Family’ in Irish, Cuid a Ceathair (Pt. 4)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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C\u00e9 chomh leathan is at\u00e1 do chraobh ghinealaigh f\u00e9in? An bhfuil (agus an mbeidh) eolas ag do shliocht agus ar shliocht do shleachta ar a sinsear agus ar shinsir a sinsear? (grafaic: By Nachfahre (Own work) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons; https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Ahnenblatt_FamilyTree.jpg)<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n

The previous three blogs have dealt with fifteen different ways to say “family” in Irish (naisc th\u00edos<\/strong>), starting with “teaghlach<\/strong>” and “clann<\/strong>.” \u00a0Today we’ll look at some aspects of the extended family, referring to “descendants”, starting our list with no. 16.\u00a0 Remember, “gs” for “genitive singular and “gpl” for “genitive plural”<\/p>\n

D. Descendants<\/em><\/p>\n

16. sliocht<\/strong>, descendants (collectively), offspring, family, as in “Sliocht na Faolchon<\/strong>” (the Family of the Female Wolf) an sliocht<\/strong> (gs: \u00e9ifeachta\u00ed d\u00edobh\u00e1lacha ar fhorbairt <\/strong>an tsleachta)<\/strong>, pl: na sleachta<\/strong> (gpl: na sleachta<\/strong>, same as the common plural form)<\/p>\n

“Sliocht” can also mean “passage” or “extract” (of writing). \u00a0With many phrases, like “t\u00fas an tsleachta<\/strong>” or “teideal an tsleachta<\/strong>,” the reference in the genitive case is much more likely\u00a0to have this meaning (“the beginning of the extract,” “the title of the passage,” etc.).<\/p>\n

17. s\u00edol<\/strong>, family, offspring, progeny, etc., lit. seed (as in “s\u00edolta a chur<\/strong>,” to plant seeds), also semen (aka “seamhain<\/strong>,” the term most typical in medical usage) and sperm (aka “speirm<\/strong>,” not surprisingly; an s\u00edol<\/strong> (gs: an ts\u00edl<\/strong>), pl: na s\u00edolta<\/strong> (gpl: na s\u00edolta<\/strong>, same as the common plural)<\/p>\n

This word can be used in tribal names, as in “S\u00edol Uidhir<\/strong>” (C\u00e9 hiad?\u00a0 Freagra th\u00edos<\/strong>) and “S\u00edol gCeallaigh<\/strong>”\u00a0 (C\u00e9 hiadsan? Freagra th\u00edos freisin<\/strong>).<\/p>\n

As we’ve seen with some of the other words, once we get into the genitive case or plural forms, the meaning is less likely “family” and more likely the most fundamental definition, as in “aimsir an ts\u00edl<\/strong>” (seed-time, the time of the seed, and N.B. to new learners, “aimsir<\/strong>” can mean time as well as “weather … of course, seed-time really depends on the weather, ach sin \u00e1bhar blag eile<\/strong> …).\u00a0 Similarly, we have “am curtha an ts\u00edl<\/strong>” (seed-planting time, lit. time of the planting of the seed, with “seed” singular here but presumably referring to way more than one!).<\/p>\n

Before we conclude this blog post, here’s a (theoretically) brief note about a related word that should have its own blog post someday — “sinsear<\/strong>.” \u00a0“Sinsear<\/strong>” most basically means “an ancestor” or “a head of a family,” but it can also mean “ancestors” (even when the word is singular!) and “ancestry.” \u00a0The Biblical Adam can be referred to as “”sinsear an chine dhaonna<\/strong>” (the ancestor of the human race), giving us an example in the singular. \u00a0Here’s a sample use of “sinsear<\/strong>” (singular) as plural:<\/p>\n

“Nuair a chonaic me an tUasal David Trimble ina sheasamh ar Chnoc an Choiligh afach, an reilig inar chuireadh m’athair agus mo shinsear, chonaic me solas an dochais agus mhothaigh me feothan na siochana.”<\/strong> [sic] (litir ar an leathanach “Opinion” san Irish Times le Micheal O Dochartaigh, (nasc th\u00edos).<\/strong><\/p>\n

I put [sic] after the quote because there are no s\u00ednt\u00ed fada<\/strong> in the text as reproduced online).\u00a0 It seems unlikely that someone would use “sinsear<\/strong>” in the singular to refer to just one ancestor in a case like this.<\/p>\n

But we can also use the plural form of “sinsear<\/strong>,” which is “sinsir<\/strong>,” for the plural, needless to say:<\/p>\n

”\u00a0Is iad\u00a0mo shinsir\u00a0iad, mo chomharsana \u00f3 thaobh na t\u00edreola\u00edochta de d\u00e1 scoiteacht \u00f3 thaobh ama is at\u00e1 muid.”(Cogadh na mBand\u00e9ithe, le Robert McMillen, I\u00fail 2012, Eagr\u00e1n 135)<\/strong><\/p>\n

One phrase I’ll have to look into later is “ord m\u00f3r na sinsear<\/strong>” — the ancestral sledge-hammer.\u00a0 Ermm, well , later …!<\/p>\n

Bhuel<\/strong>, there we are, progressing by leaps and bounds, mar dhea<\/strong>, through the list.\u00a0 The last blog covered ocht bhfocal<\/strong> but this one covered just dh\u00e1 fhocal<\/strong>.\u00a0 “Ocht bhfocal”? “Dh\u00e1 fhocal”?<\/strong> Ermm, wtf, standing innocently here for “Where’s the “f”?\u00a0 Once we eclipse and lenite it, and otherwise dice and splice it, that is.\u00a0 \u00c1, bhuel, t\u00e1 a fhios agat, sc\u00e9al na litreach sin, sin sc\u00e9al eile! \u00a0“Na hAthraithe Ab\u00fa!” ach is \u00e1bhar blag eile iad!\u00a0 SGF (agus na hacrainmneacha ab\u00fa freisin! – R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Freagra\u00ed:\u00a0“S\u00edol Uidhir,”<\/strong> the Maguires; “S\u00edol gCeallaigh,”<\/strong> the O’Kellys<\/p>\n

Naisc:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Iarbhlaganna:<\/strong>
\nhttps:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/25-ways-to-say-f\u2026cuid-a-haon-pt-1\/<\/a>, 25 Ways to Say \u2018Family\u2019 in Irish, Cuid a hAon (Pt. 1)<\/a> Posted on 25. Feb, 2016 by\u00a0r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a><\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/25-ways-to-say-f\u2026h-cuid-a-do-pt-2\/<\/a>\u00a0, 25 Ways to Say \u2018Family\u2019 in Irish, Cuid a D\u00f3 (Pt. 2)<\/a>, Posted on 27. Feb, 2016 by\u00a0r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a><\/p>\n

https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/25-ways-to-say-f\u2026-cuid-a-tri-pt-3\/<\/a>\u00a0\u200e, 25 Ways to Say \u2018Family\u2019 in Irish, Cuid a Tr\u00ed (Pt. 3)<\/a>, Posted on 29. Feb, 2016 by\u00a0r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a><\/p>\n

Sampla\u00ed na bhFocal “an tsleachta” agus “sinsear” agus “sinsir”<\/strong>
\nan tsleachta<\/strong> (of the offspring, etc.): \u00e9ifeachta\u00ed d\u00edobh\u00e1lacha ar fhorbairt an tsleachta <\/strong>(adverse effects on development of the\u00a0offspring).\u00a0\u00a0 Rialach\u00e1n (CE) Uimh. 1272\/2008 \u00f3 Pharlaimint na hEorpa agus \u00f3n gComhairle an 16 Nollaig 2008 maidir le haicmi\u00fa, lip\u00e9ad\u00fa agus pac\u00e1isti\u00fa substaint\u00ed agus measc\u00e1n, agus lena leasa\u00edtear agus lena n-aisghairtear Treoir 67\/548\/CEE agus Treoir 1999\/45\/CE, agus lena leasa\u00edtear Rialach\u00e1n (CE) Uimh. 1907\/2006<\/strong>, cited at http:\/\/www.gaois.ie\/crp\/ga\/?txt=offspring&lang=en<\/p>\n

sinsear<\/strong> as singular: http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/opinion\/letters\/massacre-in-omagh-1.187006, litir ar an leathanach “Opinion” san Irish Times le Micheal O Dochartaigh<\/strong>, Thu, Aug 27, 1998, 01:00<\/p>\n

sinsear<\/strong> as plural: http:\/\/www.beo.ie\/alt-cogadh-na-mbandeithe.aspx<\/a>, Cogadh na mBand\u00e9ithe, le Robert McMillen, Beo.ie, I\u00fail 2012, Eagr\u00e1n 135<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)   The previous three blogs have dealt with fifteen different ways to say “family” in Irish (naisc th\u00edos), starting with “teaghlach” and “clann.” \u00a0Today we’ll look at some aspects of the extended family, referring to “descendants”, starting our list with no. 16.\u00a0 Remember, “gs” for “genitive singular and “gpl” for “genitive plural” D…<\/p>\n

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