{"id":8141,"date":"2016-07-11T17:21:15","date_gmt":"2016-07-11T17:21:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=8141"},"modified":"2016-07-22T11:25:40","modified_gmt":"2016-07-22T11:25:40","slug":"brocaire-te-le-sauerkraut-no-burgar-beadai-le-gorman-agus-oinniuin-shotailte-talkin-burgers-and-dogs-and-condiments-in-irish-plus-pronunciation-tips","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/brocaire-te-le-sauerkraut-no-burgar-beadai-le-gorman-agus-oinniuin-shotailte-talkin-burgers-and-dogs-and-condiments-in-irish-plus-pronunciation-tips\/","title":{"rendered":"Brocaire te le sauerkraut n\u00f3 burgar beada\u00ed le gorm\u00e1n agus oinni\u00fain sh\u00f3t\u00e1ilte? — talkin’ burgers and dogs and condiments in Irish, plus pronunciation tips"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

Brocaire te n\u00f3 burgar?\u00a0 C\u00e9 acu is fearr leat?<\/strong>\u00a0 A hot dog or a burger?\u00a0 Which do you prefer?<\/p>\n

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Recently, we posted (nasc th\u00edos<\/strong>) some vocabulary for hot dogs (brocair\u00ed teo<\/strong>) and terriers (brocair\u00ed<\/strong>).\u00a0 We also looked at the word “brocaire<\/strong>” itself, and its origin (broc<\/strong>, a badger).\u00a0 Today we’ll sink our teeth into the subject and imagine we’re ag an mbe\u00e1rbaici\u00fa<\/strong>, deciding what to eat.<\/p>\n

An veigeat\u00f3ir th\u00fa?\u00a0 Is f\u00e9idir leat focal breise a chur ann le r\u00e1 gur brocaire te veigeat\u00f3rach n\u00f3 burgar veigeat\u00f3rach at\u00e1 de dh\u00edth ort (burgar t\u00f3f\u00fa \/ veigeat\u00f3rach \/ glasra\u00ed \/ p\u00f3nair\u00ed, srl.).\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n

Sula dtos\u00f3idh muid leis sin, seo roinnt foirmeacha den fhocal “burgar”<\/strong> — note the slight change in spelling from the English to satisfy Irish vowel harmony rules.<\/p>\n

an burgar<\/strong>, the hamburger (not that it’s really made of ham, ach sin \u00e1bhar eile, .i. stair ch\u00f3caireachta<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

an bhurgair<\/strong> [un WUR-gurzh<\/sup> OR un VUR-gurzh<\/sup> ], of the hamburger (blas an bhurgair<\/strong>, the taste of the burger)<\/p>\n

na burgair<\/strong>, the hamburgers<\/p>\n

na mburgar<\/strong> [num-UR-gur], of the hamburgers (dea-bholadh na mburgar<\/strong>, the aroma of the burgers)<\/p>\n

Note that, as the pronunciation guide here show, these words don’t have the short “uh” sound that’s typical in Irish between an “r” and a “g,” as in “dearg<\/strong>” and “fearg<\/strong>,” both of which are two syllables (DJAR-ug, FAR-ug).\u00a0 Probably this is because “burgar<\/strong>” is a relatively recent addition to the Irish language, it doesn’t keep all of the Irish idiosyncrasies of pronunciation, at least not according to the three sound files in teanglann.ie.<\/p>\n

However, if you use an alternate spelling, “borgaire<\/strong>,” you’ll probably find that extra little “uh” sound, at least according to the Focl\u00f3ir P\u00f3ca<\/em>, which transcribes the word, using IPA, as \/bor\u04d9g\u04d9r\u0384\u04d9\/.\u00a0 The three schwas (\u04d9) represent the sound “uh” (like the “a” in English “about” or “sofa”).\u00a0 BTW, as I’ve mentioned previously in the blog, when I use “uh” to indicate pronunciation, it’s that schwa sound (as in “about” or “sofa”).\u00a0 It’s not the German “uh” of “Huhn<\/em>” or the slightly eye-boggling “Moorhuhn<\/em>.”\u00a0 I say “eye-boggling” because when I see that “-rh-” in the middle of the word, I keep thinking of the Welsh “rh” (rhyd, rhos, rhaeadr, rhagddywedyd, a.y.y.b.<\/em>) even though I know it’s “Moor + Huhn<\/em>.”\u00a0 A “Moorhuhn<\/em>,” btw, is a “cearc uisce<\/strong>” in Irish.\u00a0 Somehow the eye-boggling doesn’t kick in when I see the word in English (moorhen).\u00a0 At least, it didn’t until now!<\/p>\n

To appropriate a recently revived pop-culture image of the 70s and 80s, we could talk about a ” * burgada\u00ed<\/strong>,” portmanteau’d here in Irish for the first time ever, I believe.\u00a0 But I don’t think we could go too far with that idea before the real Hamburglar would get involved.<\/p>\n

And here are some pronunciation tips for some words in the last blogpost:<\/p>\n

brocaire<\/strong> [BROK-irzh<\/sup> -uh], a terrier<\/p>\n

an bhrocaire<\/strong> [un VROK-irzh<\/sup> -uh], of the terrier<\/p>\n

na mbrocair\u00ed<\/strong> [nuh MROK-irzh<\/sup> -ee], of the terriers<\/p>\n

an bhrocaire the<\/strong> [un VROK-irzh<\/sup> -uh heh, that “eh” is a short “e” sound as in English “pet” or “let”] of the hot dog<\/p>\n

na mbrocair\u00ed teo<\/strong> [nuh MROK-irzh<\/sup>-ee tchoh], of the hot dogs.\u00a0 The “tch” transcription shows the Irish slender “t” pronunciation, similar to the typical Irish (but not American English) pronunciation of the word “tune.”<\/p>\n

brocach an bhroic<\/strong> [BROK-ukh uh vrik], the sett of the badger, the badger’s sett.\u00a0 Note the “n” of “an<\/strong>” is not typically pronounced before a consonant in phrases like this, so “an<\/strong>” is transcribed here as “uh.”\u00a0 Similarly, we have “bean an t\u00ed<\/strong>” (sometimes written as “bean a’ t\u00ed<\/strong>“) and “fear an t\u00ed<\/strong>” (sometimes written as “fear a’ t\u00ed<\/strong>“).<\/p>\n

brocacha na mbroc<\/strong> [BROK-ukh-uh num-ROK], the setts of the badgers, the badgers’ setts<\/p>\n

And now, before we start our actual conversation, how about na tarsainn (na blast\u00e1in<\/strong>) and na barr\u00e1in<\/strong>, either to fulfill the baseball stadium image of the hot dog or to satisfy beada\u00edocht an bheada\u00ed<\/strong> for a gourmet burger.\u00a0 Here are a few:<\/p>\n

citseap<\/strong><\/p>\n

mustard<\/strong><\/p>\n

anlann goinbhlasta picil\u00ed<\/strong> [… GIN-VLAS-tuh …, with the “g” hard, as in “gift” or “girl”]<\/p>\n

oinni\u00fain sh\u00f3t\u00e1ilte<\/strong> [in-YOO-in HOH-tawl-tchuh].<\/p>\n

gorm\u00e1n <\/strong>— this means “blue cheese,” but it can also mean “cornflower” or “a black person” (since “black” for skin tone in Irish is “gorm<\/strong>,” literally, “blue”)<\/p>\n

You might also have<\/p>\n

leit\u00eds<\/strong><\/p>\n

tr\u00e1ta\u00ed<\/strong><\/p>\n

oinni\u00fain amha<\/strong><\/p>\n

And for the brocaire te<\/strong>, at least:<\/p>\n

sauerkraut<\/strong>, the same in English and Irish and, I assume, auf Deutsch<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Your pickle on the side could be a “girc\u00edn picilte<\/strong>” aka “girc\u00edn i bpicil<\/strong>.\u00a0 That’s an interesting situation where English has the “gh” and Irish just has a plain “g.”\u00a0 Some similar examples of this contrast \u00a0include “g\u00ed<\/strong>” (ghee), “G\u00e1na<\/strong>” (Ghana), and “geiteo<\/strong>“(ghetto).\u00a0 So far I can’t find “ghat” in Irish, but I wouldn’t say it comes up that often in typical Irish conversations.<\/p>\n

Anyway, now we’ve done “burgar<\/strong>,” reviewed “brocaire te<\/strong>,” practiced a little pronunciation, and covered the condiments.\u00a0 Now let’s do a little comhr\u00e1.\u00a0\u00a0 Bairbre agus Brian ag caint faoin mbia. \u00a0Gluais\u00edn th\u00edos<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Bairbre: Dia dhuit, a Bhriain, C\u00e9n chaoi a bhfuil t\u00fa?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Brian: T\u00e1 m\u00e9 go maith, a Bhairbre, go raibh maith agat.\u00a0 Agus t\u00fa f\u00e9in? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Bairbre: T\u00e1 mise go maith freisin ach t\u00e1 ocras orm. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Brian: Bhuel, t\u00e1 t\u00fa san \u00e1it cheart.\u00a0 \u00c1, dea-bholadh na mbrocair\u00ed teo agus na mburgar blasta!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bairbre: \u00d3, t\u00e1 ocras an domhain orm!\u00a0 <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Brian: Bhuel, s\u00edlim go bhfuil na burgair agus na brocair\u00ed teo r\u00e9idh anois.\u00a0\u00a0 C\u00e9 acu ab fhearr leat? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Bairbre: Bhuel, is feoils\u00e9ant\u00f3ir m\u00e9 agus b’fhearr liom burgar veigeat\u00f3rach mar sin.\u00a0 An f\u00e9idir liom burgar t\u00f3f\u00fa a fh\u00e1il? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Brian: S\u00edlim gur f\u00e9idir.\u00a0 \u00c1, seo dhuit ceann.\u00a0\u00a0 Agus roll\u00f3g? \u00a0T\u00e1 na blast\u00e1in ansin ar an mbord eile.\u00a0 Agus t\u00e1 beoir agus deochanna fuara sa chise\u00e1n fuar ansin.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bairbre: Go raibh maith agat.\u00a0 Agus c\u00e9ard a bheidh agatsa?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Brian: Beidh burgar mairteola agam agus gorm\u00e1n agus oinni\u00fain sh\u00f3t\u00e1ilte agus tr\u00e1ta\u00ed mar bharr\u00e1in.\u00a0\u00a0 Burgar beada\u00ed a bheidh ann!\u00a0 Bhuel, leag air!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bairbre (tar \u00e9is greim amh\u00e1in)\u00a0 \u00c1\u00e1\u00e1, blasta.\u00a0 Bia foirfe do l\u00e1 bre\u00e1 samhraidh! <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

An raibh t\u00fa ag be\u00e1rbaici\u00fa an samhradh seo?\u00a0 M\u00e1 bh\u00ed, scr\u00edobh isteach agus inis d\u00fainn c\u00e9n chaoi a raibh s\u00e9 agus c\u00e9n s\u00f3rt bia a bh\u00ed ann, m\u00e1s mian leat.\u00a0 SGF\u00a0 — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nasc:<\/strong>
\nMadra\u00ed teo n\u00f3 brocair\u00ed teo i s\u00e9as\u00far na mbe\u00e1rbaici\u00fanna (hot dogs, and more, in Irish)<\/a>\u00a0Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on Jul 6, 2016<\/span><\/p>\n

Gluais\u00edn: beada\u00ed<\/strong>, gourmet; ceart<\/strong>, right, correct; cise\u00e1n fuar<\/strong>, cooler, lit. “cold basket”; dea-bholadh<\/strong>, aroma; foirfe<\/strong>, perfect; greim<\/strong>, a bite; Leag air!<\/strong> Tuck in(to it); mairteola<\/strong>, of beef; ocras an domhain<\/strong>, extreme hunger<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Brocaire te n\u00f3 burgar?\u00a0 C\u00e9 acu is fearr leat?\u00a0 A hot dog or a burger?\u00a0 Which do you prefer? Recently, we posted (nasc th\u00edos) some vocabulary for hot dogs (brocair\u00ed teo) and terriers (brocair\u00ed).\u00a0 We also looked at the word “brocaire” itself, and its origin (broc, a badger).\u00a0 Today we’ll sink our teeth…<\/p>\n

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