{"id":8468,"date":"2016-09-30T15:35:13","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T15:35:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=8468"},"modified":"2016-10-08T14:33:21","modified_gmt":"2016-10-08T14:33:21","slug":"um-um-nasturtiums-geraniums-and-chrysanthemums-oh-my-ainmneacha-plandai-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/um-um-nasturtiums-geraniums-and-chrysanthemums-oh-my-ainmneacha-plandai-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Um, um, nasturtiums, geraniums, and chrysanthemums — oh my! (Ainmneacha Planda\u00ed 5)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"C\u00e9n<\/a>

C\u00e9n s\u00f3rt bl\u00e1thanna iad seo? Leid: n\u00ed gleor\u00e1in agus n\u00ed geir\u00e9iniama\u00ed iad. An tr\u00ed\u00fa “-um” \u00f3n teideal at\u00e1 i gceist.<\/em> (grianghraf: By Andy Mabbett (Own work) [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons)<\/p><\/div>Three more flower names this time around.\u00a0 And what do they have in common?\u00a0 Simply the fact that they end in “-um” in English. \u00a0So we’ll see if this gives us any sort of pattern for words borrowed from Latin, or do they all end up with different ending in Irish?<\/p>\n

It’s actually a question I’d like to pursue more broadly sometime.\u00a0\u00a0 Do words that have a common suffix or ending in English, like “communism” and “consumerism,” always have the matching endings in Irish? \u00a0Not the actual English suffix, of course, but the equivalent Irish suffix, in this case “-achas<\/strong>.”\u00a0 For “communism” and “consumerism,” it’s easy, “cumannachas<\/strong>”\u00a0\u00a0 and “tomhaltachas<\/strong>,” but are there some “-isms” that don’t use “-achas<\/strong>” as an ending for the Irish equivalent?\u00a0 BTW, I tried using “-achas-anna<\/strong>” there, but it did seem a bit awkward.\u00a0 I have a whole dictionary of “isms,” so someday, that’ll be another tionscadal do l\u00e1 na coise tinne<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Anyway, my hunch is that English isms will mostly be “something-achas<\/strong>” in Irish, but there may be a few “-(e)achtanna<\/strong>,” and “-(a)\u00edochtanna<\/strong>” thrown in.\u00a0 I can’t wait to check out “NIMBYism .\u00a0 I know my earlier searches for this word in Irish proved fruitless.\u00a0 Maybe it’s been coined by now?<\/p>\n

And now, let’s actually do our three flower types.<\/p>\n

For nasturtium, we have “gleor\u00e1n<\/strong>,” which also means “jingle” and also means “jangle.”\u00a0 Wow, or as I’ve started to see in Irish recently, “Bhabh<\/strong>!”<\/p>\n

Well, the further meanings of gleor\u00e1n<\/strong> might be interesting for blag \u00e9igin sa todhcha\u00ed<\/strong>,\u00a0 but for now let’s just go through its forms, quite standard for nouns ending in “-\u00e1n” (i.e. typical 1st-declension masculine nouns)<\/p>\n

an gleor\u00e1n<\/strong>, the nasturtium; gleor\u00e1in<\/strong>, of a nasturtium; an ghleor\u00e1in<\/strong>, of the nasturtium (dath an ghleor\u00e1in<\/strong>, the color of the nasturtium)<\/p>\n

gleor\u00e1in<\/strong>, nasturtiums; na\u00a0gleor\u00e1in<\/strong>, the nasturtiums<\/p>\n

gleor\u00e1n<\/strong>, of nasturtiums; na ngleor\u00e1n<\/strong>, of the nasturtiums (dathanna na ngleor\u00e1n<\/strong>, the colors of the nasturtiums)<\/p>\n

Next we have geir\u00e9iniam<\/strong> (geranium), which also has a more traditional Irish name “crobh fola<\/strong>” (!).\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0With “geir\u00e9iniam<\/strong>,” we see the “-am” ending that’s used for a lot of Latin-based words that have the “-um” ending in English. \u00a0We’ll deal more with the “crobh fola<\/strong>” form in a future blog, since I’m trying to focus here on what happens to the “-um” ending.\u00a0 The forms are quite straightforward:<\/p>\n

an geir\u00e9iniam<\/strong>, the geranium; geir\u00e9iniam<\/strong>, of a geranium; an gheir\u00e9iniam<\/strong>, of the geranium (no change to the ending because it’s 4th-declension)<\/p>\n

geir\u00e9iniama\u00ed<\/strong>, geraniums; na geir\u00e9iniama\u00ed<\/strong>, the geraniums; geir\u00e9iniama\u00ed<\/strong>, of geraniums; na\u00a0ngeir\u00e9iniama\u00ed<\/strong>, of the geraniums<\/p>\n

And finally, we have “criosantamam<\/strong>” (chrysanthemum).\u00a0 where the “-am” ending is interpreted as first-declension, so we’ll have “-aim” instead of “-ama\u00ed” for the plural.<\/p>\n

an criosantamam<\/strong>, chrysanthemum; criosantamaim<\/strong>, of a chrysanthemum; an chriosantamaim<\/strong>, of the chrysanthemum<\/p>\n

criosantamaim<\/strong> chrysanthemums; na criosantamaim<\/strong>, the chrysanthemums; \u00a0criosantamam<\/strong>, of \u00a0chrysanthemums; na gcriosantamam<\/strong>, of the chrysanthemum<\/p>\n

So that’s three more flowers, and three different things that happen to the names compared to the English.\u00a0 One has a completely separately word in Irish, with the “-\u00e1n” ending.\u00a0 The other two have two different versions of the “-am” ending, as shown by the plurals: geir\u00e9iniama\u00ed<\/strong> vs. criosantamaim<\/strong>.\u00a0 Endlessly suimi\u00fail<\/strong>, as always, and remember, Irish rarely lets you rest on your laurels (botanically “labhrais<\/strong>” but for the idiom, simply “c\u00e1il<\/strong>,” meaning “reputation”).\u00a0 Little differences in word patterns always seem to be lurking around the corner.\u00a0 On that note, SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Gluais: cumann<\/strong>, club, society, fellowship, association; tomhalt\u00f3ir<\/strong>, a consumer<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Three more flower names this time around.\u00a0 And what do they have in common?\u00a0 Simply the fact that they end in “-um” in English. \u00a0So we’ll see if this gives us any sort of pattern for words borrowed from Latin, or do they all end up with different ending in Irish? It’s actually…<\/p>\n

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