{"id":9099,"date":"2017-03-29T15:52:47","date_gmt":"2017-03-29T15:52:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=9099"},"modified":"2017-04-13T20:46:21","modified_gmt":"2017-04-13T20:46:21","slug":"bia-le-beoir-aguisin-one-more-irish-phrase-for-a-beer-friendly-snack-food-cuid-part-2b-of-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/bia-le-beoir-aguisin-one-more-irish-phrase-for-a-beer-friendly-snack-food-cuid-part-2b-of-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Bia le Beoir (Aguis\u00edn): One More Irish Phrase for a Beer-friendly Snack Food, Cuid \/ Part 2B of 2"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Every time I think I’m coming down the home stretch with this list of “-fheoil” or “-eoil” words, I think of a few more.\u00a0 So, in today’s post, we’ll not only look at fiafheoil<\/strong> and oiseoil<\/strong>, as mentioned in previous blogs, but we’ll also start looking at the following words and see how far we get: aineoil<\/strong> (in the medical sense, with “feoil<\/strong>” as “flesh,” not “meat” as such), ilfheoi<\/strong>l, mionfheoil<\/strong>, seirgeoi<\/strong>l, tarbhfheoil<\/strong>, and toirceoil<\/strong>.\u00a0 BTW, I’m only trying to look at the actual compound words here, not all the possibilities for “feoil<\/strong>” itself, which would be way longer, even for a sraith<\/strong> (series). \u00a0BTW2, in case anyone is just starting this series, yes, it started as a discussion of snacks to go with beoir<\/strong>, but has now morphed (mhorfaigh s\u00e9<\/strong> — one of my new favorite words!) \u00a0into a discussion of meat in general, since we got started with “muiceoil<\/strong>” for use in the phrase for cracklings (aka pork scratchings). \u00a0So, here’s more meat!<\/p>\n

First, the two words for venison: fiafheoil<\/strong> and oiseoil<\/strong><\/p>\n

an fhiafheoil<\/strong>, the venison (fia, deer + feoil, meat); \u00a0remember both “fh’s” are silent; no plural<\/p>\n

fiafheola<\/strong>, of venison<\/p>\n

na fiafheola<\/strong>, of the venison<\/p>\n

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And now the second choice for “venison,” oiseoil<\/strong>:<\/p>\n

an oiseoil<\/strong>, the venison (os, deer + feoil, meat); no plural<\/p>\n

oiseola<\/strong>, of\u00a0 venison<\/p>\n

na hoiseola<\/strong>, of the venison<\/p>\n

When to use fiafheoil<\/strong> and when to use oiseoil<\/strong>?\u00a0 Mostly I’ve heard and seen, fiafheoil<\/strong>, not that I’ve encountered that word all that often in real life either.\u00a0 “Os<\/strong>” for “deer” is more of a literary word, although it does give us the well-known derived term “ois\u00edn<\/strong>” (fawn, and a man’s name, including the famous “Ois\u00edn,” son of Fionn Mac Cumhaill and, according to legend, a woman\/deer shapeshifter).<\/p>\n

I checked out these words on Google and got 48 reasonably meaningful Google hits for “fiafheoil<\/strong>,” narrowed down from a preliminary count of a whopping 12,100 — one of the biggest gaps I’ve seen in such preliminary vs. final searches.\u00a0 Following fairly close behind, with 39 reasonably meaningful hits is “oiseoil<\/strong>,” also meaning “venison,” from “os” (a deer).\u00a0 Not that I’ve totally analyzed all of those 48 or 39 yet, and I did get a chuckle from one stray reference that sneaked into the search, due to a spacing issue the in original document: VAN GOGH, VincentLandscape near Auvers: WheatfieldsJuly 1890, Auvers-sur-OiseOil\u00a0on canvas.\u00a0 There’s always a multilingual potential for complete irrelevance in these Google searches, but they usually give us a general idea of a word’s usage.\u00a0 A fair number of these hits were actually online dictionary entries, which, though good to note, don’t really show the word in a natural context, which is what I’m really looking for.\u00a0 Oh well!<\/p>\n

And now for the others, none of which generally have a plural:<\/p>\n

aineoil (ainfheoil)<\/strong>, proud flesh re: the healing of wounds,, aka “exuberant granulation tissue,” which presumably would be “f\u00edoch\u00e1n gr\u00e1n\u00fach\u00e1in uaibhreach” (although I can’t find it anywhere online or in hard copy).\u00a0 “Proud Flesh” (in English) is also the name of the following and perhaps more: tr\u00ed leabhar, albam de chuid Matrix, scann\u00e1n amh\u00e1in, eipeas\u00f3id amh\u00e1in de Law & Order: Criminal Intent, agus cine\u00e1l br\u00f3im\u00e9iligh (sin br\u00f3im—, n\u00ed bhaineann s\u00e9 le “broim”).\u00a0 “Aineoil” uses the prefix “ain-” (un-, bad, unnatural, over-, etc.).\u00a0 So, hmm, curious that English calls it “proud,” while Irish looks at it negatively. \u00a0And this is using “feoil” in the sense of “flesh” as opposed to “meat” as such.\u00a0 BTW, this “aineoil” isn’t connected at all to “aineoil” (unknown, strange), which is related to “eolas” (knowledge).\u00a0 The older spelling (ainfheoil), clarified the difference.\u00a0 Foirmeacha: an aineoil, aineola, na haineola.<\/p>\n

So if a hobbit named “Proudfoot” injured his foot (unlikely given the toughness of their feet) we’d have “proud flesh” on “Proudfoot!<\/p>\n

ilfheoil<\/strong> (il-, various + feoil, meat), grammatically “variety meat” but often considered collective, so translated “variety meats,” i.e. meat made by processing meat, often scraps, leftover bits, and organs, such as heart, tongue, or liver.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0For what it’s worth, I’ve never encountered this word in real life and I find no trace of it online (searched ilfheoil, hilfheoil, n-ilfheoil, ilfheolta — even though a collective noun shouldn’t need a plural — hilfheolta, n-ilfheolta, which I would say exhausts the prefixes).\u00a0 All of this does connect to “offal,” but that introduces so much more vocabulary in Irish that I’ll leave it for l\u00e1 \u00e9igin eile.\u00a0 Gn\u00e1thfhoirmeacha: an ilfheoil, ilfheola, na hilfheola.<\/strong><\/p>\n

marbhfheoil<\/strong>, dead meat, as opposed to … I shudder to think.\u00a0 Or should I say, all I can think of is Douglas Adams’ Restaurant at the End of the Universe<\/em>.\u00a0 Or, come to think of it, Klingon “gagh<\/em>” (serpent worms, served live, stewed, or cold).\u00a0 Foirmeacha: an mharbhfheoil, marbhfheola, na marbhfheola<\/strong><\/p>\n

mionfheoil<\/strong> (aka feoil mhionaithe), minced meat aka mince meat aka mincemeat aka just “mince,”\u00a0 No longer generally included as an ingredient in “mincemeat” pies (pi\u00f3ga mionra).\u00a0 Similar to ground meat (like ground beef), but technically there’s a difference in the processing.\u00a0 Or at least there’s’ supposed to be.\u00a0 They seem very similar to me. \u00a0Foirmeacha: an mhionfheoil, mionfheola, na mionfheola<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Bhuel, the liosta<\/strong> goes on, so we’ll save the rest for next time and hopefully the last installment in this not-so-mini “mionsraith<\/strong>,” which was already an “aguis\u00edn<\/strong>” to the more general topic of beer-related snacks.\u00a0 From “muiceoil<\/strong>” as in “craiceann muiceola friochta” (cracklings, pork scratchings) all the way to “mionfheoil<\/strong>,” with “seirgeoil<\/strong>,” “tarbhfheoil<\/strong>,” “toirceoil<\/strong>,” and a few more terms left to go, plus a comparison of “bull beef” and “bully beef” i Gaeilge agus i mB\u00e9arla<\/strong>. \u00a0Aren’t words interesting!\u00a0 SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

Naisc<\/strong><\/p>\n

Cuid 1:\u00a0Bia le Beoir (Aguis\u00edn): One More Irish Phrase for a Beer-friendly Snack Food, Cuid \/ Part 1<\/a>\u00a0Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on Mar 23, 2017 in Irish Language<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

Cuid 2A:\u00a0Bia le Beoir (Aguis\u00edn): One More Irish Phrase for a Beer-friendly Snack Food, Cuid \/ Part 2A of 2<\/a>\u00a0Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on Mar 26, 2017 in Irish Language<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

and for the sneaiceanna beorach<\/strong>\u00a0in general:\u00a0Bia le Beoir: Some Irish Words for Good Snack Foods to Eat with Beer<\/a>\u00a0Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on Mar 20, 2017 in Irish Language<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) Every time I think I’m coming down the home stretch with this list of “-fheoil” or “-eoil” words, I think of a few more.\u00a0 So, in today’s post, we’ll not only look at fiafheoil and oiseoil, as mentioned in previous blogs, but we’ll also start looking at the following words and see how…<\/p>\n

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