{"id":9256,"date":"2017-05-16T06:46:38","date_gmt":"2017-05-16T06:46:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=9256"},"modified":"2017-06-06T01:10:56","modified_gmt":"2017-06-06T01:10:56","slug":"sceamhog-vs-scamhog-in-irish-and-for-good-measure-sceallog-and-scailleog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/sceamhog-vs-scamhog-in-irish-and-for-good-measure-sceallog-and-scailleog\/","title":{"rendered":"‘Sceamh\u00f3g’ vs. ‘Scamh\u00f3g” in Irish (and for good measure ‘sceall\u00f3g’ and ‘scailleog’)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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While working on the most recent blogs, on pr\u00e1ta\u00ed<\/strong>, (naisc th\u00edos<\/strong>), I noticed an interesting coincidence about the pronunciation of some Irish words.\u00a0 Last time, we talked extensively about words for “chips”, which included “sceamh\u00f3g<\/strong>” (flake, chip, slice).\u00a0 In today’s post, we’ll look at a similar-sounding word, “scamh\u00f3g<\/strong>,” which has a completely different meaning.<\/p>\n

And for good measure, we’ll revisit sceall\u00f3g<\/strong> (chips, french fries), this time contrasted with the pronunciation and meaning of “scailleog<\/strong>,” admittedly a much less widely used word in Irish.\u00a0 So, altogether, we’ll look at sceamh\u00f3g, scamh\u00f3g, scailleog<\/strong> and sceall\u00f3g<\/strong>, in that order.<\/p>\n

To recap “sceamh\u00f3g<\/strong>” from our last post, it means flake, chip or slice, and is especially used with regard to paint or rust\u00a0 (sceamh\u00f3g ph\u00e9inte, sceamh\u00f3g mheirge<\/strong>) and for bread (sceamh\u00f3g ar\u00e1in<\/strong>). But it doesn’t tend to be used, at least not to any major extent, for potatoes.\u00a0 In pronouncing this word, remember the “SC” is slender, so it’s like “SHK” would be in English, the hitch being that almost nothing starts with “SHK” in English.\u00a0 We do find it medially in “babushka,” but there the pronunciation is split between two syllables (bush + ka).\u00a0 No big deal, though, the main thing is that \u00a0it’s “SH” + “K,” not “S” + “K” (which we’d have in “ski” or “ska,” or “Alaska”).\u00a0 In Irish, of course, it’s the same “SC-” sound as in “scian<\/strong>” or “sciob\u00f3<\/strong>l.”\u00a0 Its forms are:<\/p>\n

an sceamh\u00f3g<\/strong>, the flake, etc.<\/p>\n

na sceamh\u00f3ige, of the flake, etc.<\/p>\n

na sceamh\u00f3ga, the flakes, etc.<\/p>\n

na sceamh\u00f3g, of the flakes<\/p>\n

Did you spot the flakes of paint in the graphic?\u00a0 They’re on the side of the boat in the middle, hopefully looking convincingly added but also hopefully blending in.<\/p>\n

Next we have the Irish word for “lung” and some of its forms:<\/p>\n

an scamh\u00f3g<\/strong>, the lung<\/p>\n

na scamh\u00f3ige, of the lung<\/p>\n

na scamh\u00f3ga, the lungs<\/p>\n

na scamh\u00f3g, of the lungs<\/p>\n

Remember in pronunciation, this “SC-” is broad, unlike “sceamh\u00f3g<\/strong>,” where it was an “SHK-” sound.\u00a0 So the -sound for “scamh\u00f3g<\/strong>” is “SKA-” (not “SHKA-“), as in Irish “scann\u00e1n<\/strong>” or “scamall<\/strong>,” or English “scald” or “scar.”<\/p>\n

Did you spot the scamh\u00f3ga<\/strong> in the graphic?\u00a0 If not, they next to the image of the dia gaoithe<\/strong> (wind god).<\/p>\n

Now let’s look at another pair of words with a similar alternaton in the “SC-” sound.\u00a0 This pair also has an alternation in the “L” sound, with the double-L of “scailleog<\/strong>” being pronounced slender and the double-L of “sceall\u00f3g<\/strong>” pronounced broad.<\/p>\n

So, starting with “scailleog<\/strong>,” the broad “SC” sound as in English “scam” or “scoot.”\u00a0\u00a0 The double L is a lot like the double L in “million” and the “E”\u00a0and the “O” combine to form one single long “O” sound.\u00a0 It means “splashing wave” or “chop” (referring to waves), or alternatively if you will, “a splash” or “a chopping wave. ” Not a little splashing sound like in a bath tub, though (that could be a “splais<\/strong>“) and not a small amount of liquid for drinking or for cooking, as in a splash of whiskey in the coffee — that could be a “steall<\/strong>” or a “steall\u00f3g<\/strong>”\u00a0 (or simply a “braon<\/strong>“). This word can also be spelled scaileog<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Maidir leis an bpicti\u00far, is d\u00f3cha go bhfuil s\u00e9 soil\u00e9ir go leor c\u00e9n \u00e1it a bhfuil na scailleoga!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Of course, “tonnta<\/strong>” is a more widely used word for “waves,” but that wouldn’t have fit our sets of contrasting pairs. \u00a0However, for good measure, here are some of the forms for “tonn<\/strong>“:<\/p>\n

an tonn<\/strong>, the wave<\/p>\n

na toinne, of the wave<\/p>\n

na tonnta, the waves<\/p>\n

na dtonnta, which is more or less standard, and shows up in the song, “Trasna na dTonnta<\/strong>” OR “na dtonn<\/strong>“, in certain phrases, such as “rolladh na dtonn<\/strong>,” \u00a0the song title, “Gaoth Barra na dTonn<\/strong>,” or the book title Toraigh na dTonn<\/em>.<\/p>\n

In contrast to “scailleog<\/strong>,” with its broad “S” and slender “L’s,” our contrasting word is the familiar “sceall\u00f3g<\/strong>,” (chips, French fries) with the slender “SC-” and the broad “Ls” so pretty much the opposite of the pronunciation pattern of “scailleog<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

An bhfaca t\u00fa na sceall\u00f3ga sa phicti\u00far?\u00a0 T\u00e1 siad an-bheag ach t\u00e1 dath dearg ar an gcoime\u00e1d\u00e1n, cine\u00e1l feice\u00e1lach le hais an ch\u00falionaid bh\u00e9asa agus le suntasacht an datha ghoirm sa phicti\u00far.<\/strong><\/p>\n

So, with all of that under our belts, I would love to find out how the French company Scallog\u00ae got its name.\u00a0 It looks Celtic but that may be sheer coincidence.\u00a0 Eolas ag duine ar bith anseo<\/strong>?\u00a0 And I’d love to get one of their attractive blue and white t-shirts and add an appliqu\u00e9d letter “e” to it and an appliqu\u00e9d fada<\/strong> for the “o.”\u00a0 An appliqu\u00e9d fada<\/strong>?\u00a0 Probably the first time that expression has been used! \u00a0Mh’anam<\/strong>, what uncharted linguistic territory this blog takes us to!<\/p>\n

If anyone wants to pursue how Scallog got its name, here’s what else I can tell you.\u00a0 Their logo also includes the phrase “scalable logistics” (which would be “l\u00f3ist\u00edocht insc\u00e1laithe<\/strong>” in Irish — but don’t ask me what it really means mar n\u00ed thuigim fi\u00fa an B\u00e9arla<\/strong>).\u00a0 I thought “scalable” had to do with mountainsides but now it has to do with “pr\u00f3ise\u00e1il chomhuaineach<\/strong>” (parallel processing) and Grafaic Veicteoireach<\/strong> (Vector Graphics).\u00a0 Bhuel, sin an saol a bhfuil muid in\u00e1r gc\u00f3na\u00ed ann anois ach, ar nd\u00f3igh, maireann roinnt ruda\u00ed, mar shaothar eala\u00edne Hokusai<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Hope you found this both fun and informative.\u00a0 C\u00e9n t-\u00e1bhar a bheas againn sa ch\u00e9ad bhlagmh\u00edr eile?\u00a0 N\u00edl m\u00e9 cinnte f\u00f3s ach b’fh\u00e9idir “Taibhse Oiwa”<\/strong> (The Ghost of Oiwa)? That’s another Hokusai work, based on the same ghost legend that has inspired a 19th-century Kabuki play which, in turn, has been filmed over 30 times.\u00a0 P\u00e9 sc\u00e9al \u00e9, SGF – R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

nasc: <\/strong>Not just \u2018bruite\u2019 \u2014 some Irish terms for preparing potatoes<\/a>Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on May 6, 2017 in Irish Language<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

Speaking of Spuds: Sceall\u00f3ga (Pr\u00e1ta\u00ed) and Sceall\u00f3ga Eile (Irish Words for Chips, Potato and Otherwise)<\/a>Posted by r\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/a> on May 12, 2017 in Irish Language<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn) While working on the most recent blogs, on pr\u00e1ta\u00ed, (naisc th\u00edos), I noticed an interesting coincidence about the pronunciation of some Irish words.\u00a0 Last time, we talked extensively about words for “chips”, which included “sceamh\u00f3g” (flake, chip, slice).\u00a0 In today’s post, we’ll look at a similar-sounding word, “scamh\u00f3g,” which has a completely different…<\/p>\n

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