{"id":9324,"date":"2017-05-31T16:07:46","date_gmt":"2017-05-31T16:07:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=9324"},"modified":"2017-06-23T00:16:11","modified_gmt":"2017-06-23T00:16:11","slug":"trucail-chrochta-agus-trucaili-crochta-another-truck-term-in-irish","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/trucail-chrochta-agus-trucaili-crochta-another-truck-term-in-irish\/","title":{"rendered":"Trucail Chrochta agus Trucail\u00ed Crochta: Another ‘Truck’ Term in Irish"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a>Bhuel<\/strong>, I thought I was finished with dump trucks and the like when I came across one more related term in Irish, with a very interesting structure to boot \u00a0—\u00a0trucail chrochta<\/strong>, a tip-truck, which apparently is an Australian English word for a tipper or tipper lorry.\u00a0 A Astr\u00e1lacha ar an liosta seo<\/strong> — can you confirm?\u00a0\u00a0 And even more to the point, is the phrase “trucail chrochta<\/strong>” used much in the Irish-speaking community there?\u00a0 Literally, “trucail chrochta<\/strong>” means “hanging truck,” or even more literally, “truck of hanging,” referring to the hinged mechanism, I presume.<\/p>\n

So why do we have “trucail dump\u00e1la<\/strong>” without lenition and “trucail chrochta<\/strong>” with lenition (C becoming CH)?\u00a0 Remember our old friend the D-N-T-L-S rule?\u00a0 That’s the rule that tells us that mutations are usually blocked when any of those five letters are adjacent.\u00a0 This is especially common after “an<\/strong>” (the), with many examples in phrases like “ag an doras<\/strong>” (not “dhoras<\/strong>” or “ndoras<\/strong>,” although the latter is possible in dialect) and after the prefix “sean<\/strong>-” as in “seansaighdi\u00fair<\/strong>” (old soldier, veteran).\u00a0 In contrast, we would have “ag an mbord<\/strong>” and “seanfhear<\/strong>,” both showing mutations in a non-D-N-T-L-S situation.<\/p>\n

“Dump\u00e1la<\/strong>” does not become “dhump\u00e1la<\/strong>” after “trucail<\/strong>” because we have a “D” following an “L.” But “crochta<\/strong>” does become “chrochta<\/strong>” because the letter “C” is not affected by the D-N-T-L-S rule.<\/p>\n

Since we ended up revisiting “dumpair\u00ed<\/strong>” anyway, I figured it would be interesting to take a peak at the history of the concept, hence the graphic above.\u00a0 Although I find no precedent for the phrase, I suppose we could call a “wagon dumper” a “vaig\u00edn dump\u00e1la<\/strong>” in Irish. \u00a0In adapting the word “wagon” to Irish, remember that the letter “W” is very rare in Irish.\u00a0 Offhand, the only word that comes to mind including “W” is “wigwam,” listed in various Irish dictionaries as the word for <drumroll> … “wigwam<\/strong>.”\u00a0 It’s certainly not a traditional Irish word, n\u00ed g\u00e1 le r\u00e1<\/strong>, and hasn’t been modified for vowel harmony the way “m\u00f3ideim<\/strong>” and “\u00edogl\u00fa<\/strong>” have.\u00a0 Further investigation for “w-words” yields … bhuel<\/strong>, not much: “watt<\/strong>” directly from English, but this can also be “vata<\/strong>.”\u00a0 The abbreviation apparently stays “W<\/strong>,” much the same, I suppose, as “km<\/strong>” remains the abbreviation for “kilometer” although the Irish alphabet traditionally doesn’t include the letter “K,” most “K-words” being spelled with a “C” in Irish, like the place names An Ch\u00f3ir\u00e9<\/strong>\u00a0(Korea) and \u00a0An Ch\u00e9inia<\/strong> (Kenya).\u00a0 This may also apply to surnames, like Mac Dhiarmada<\/strong> for “Kermode” or “Kermit,” with the “C” of “mac<\/strong>” giving us the K sound). \u00a0“Kermit,” of course, can also be a first (given) name, as in Kermit the Frog.\u00a0 Or wait, is that simply a mononym?\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0And what’s the Irish for a mononym?\u00a0 So far, I can’t find anything, but I suppose it’d be “*monainm<\/strong>.”\u00a0 Bar\u00falacha ar bith agaibhse<\/strong>?<\/p>\n

Anyway, also remember that in “vaig\u00edn<\/strong>” there is a hard “g” sound, and it’s slender, as in Irish “creig<\/strong>” or “ceaig<\/strong>” or “naig\u00edn<\/strong>” (a noggin), not as in Irish “muga<\/strong>” or “ruga<\/strong>” or “f\u00e1gaim<\/strong>.” \u00a0It’s a slight difference, but audible.<\/p>\n

So that’s one more phrase for a type of truck.\u00a0 No doubt there are more (and how about the “honey wagon,” which is really a type of truck?) but that’ll have to wait for “am \u00e9igin eile<\/strong>.” – SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"\"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)   Bhuel, I thought I was finished with dump trucks and the like when I came across one more related term in Irish, with a very interesting structure to boot \u00a0—\u00a0trucail chrochta, a tip-truck, which apparently is an Australian English word for a tipper or tipper lorry.\u00a0 A Astr\u00e1lacha ar an liosta seo…<\/p>\n

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