{"id":9799,"date":"2017-10-31T19:43:29","date_gmt":"2017-10-31T19:43:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/?p=9799"},"modified":"2018-03-22T20:33:53","modified_gmt":"2018-03-22T20:33:53","slug":"vocabulary-roundup-for-the-blogpost-is-x-me-an-x-tusa-saying-i-am-a-x-are-you-a-x-in-irish-cuidpt-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/irish\/vocabulary-roundup-for-the-blogpost-is-x-me-an-x-tusa-saying-i-am-a-x-are-you-a-x-in-irish-cuidpt-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Vocabulary Roundup for the Blogpost ”Is (X) m\u00e9 — An (X) tusa?\u00a0 — Saying “I am a (X)” — “Are you a (X)?” in Irish” (Cuid\/Pt. 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"

(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a>Today we’ll have the final touch to our recent turnip terminology tour (naisc th\u00edos<\/strong>).\u00a0 We’ll complete the vocabulary roundup for the earlier blogpost of conversations that had a pumpkin talking to a turnip, a Vegemite vignette, a confession from an undercover Martian, a Doctor Who conversation, and an “otairinealaraingeola\u00ed<\/strong>” thrown in, all as a way of practicing the Irish linking verb (aka “an chopail<\/strong>“).\u00a0 Nothing like sneaking grammar in through the backdoor, eh?\u00a0 That “eh” is for you “Ceanadaigh<\/strong>” on the list, or any Down Easters.<\/p>\n

And time turnipping, oops, permitting (some weird semi-Spoonerism there), we’ll look at a few more types of turnips.\u00a0 BTW, this is still the unofficial turnip terminology tour.\u00a0 I hope to dedicate an entire post to the topic someday.\u00a0 How will you know?\u00a0 That blogpost will probably be called the “Official Turnip Terminology Tour: Gaeilge agus B\u00e9arla agus beag\u00e1n Sualainnise<\/strong>” whereas here I’m just adding a few more types of turnips for good measure. .<\/p>\n

So, first the nitty gritty, corrfhocail as comhr\u00e1 a tr\u00ed, a ceathair, agus a c\u00faig<\/strong>, again, from the previously noted blogs (naisc th\u00edos<\/strong>) .\u00a0 And BTW, for where it pertains, I’m just doing the nominative singular and plural here, not the genitive or vocative.\u00a0 D\u00e9anfaidh muid an tuiseal ginideach agus an tuiseal gairmeach am \u00e9igin eile<\/strong>.\u00a0 There is such as thing as TMI, at least all at once.<\/p>\n

3: As comhr\u00e1 a tr\u00ed (n\u00e1isi\u00fantachta\u00ed)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Astr\u00e1lach (an tAstr\u00e1lach, iol: na hAstr\u00e1laigh)<\/strong>, Australian (person).\u00a0 This word can also be the adjective to describe the culture or some animal species, like “gliomach sp\u00edonach Astr\u00e1lach<\/strong>” (Australian spiny lobster).\u00a0 Betcha can’t guess which word means “lobster” in that phrase\u00a0 — that was “teanga i bpluc<\/strong>,” ar nd\u00f3igh<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Ceanadach (an Ceanadach, iol: na Ceanadaigh)<\/strong>, Canadian (person\/adjective)<\/p>\n

As for “Vegemite,” n\u00ed sh\u00edlim go bhfuil aon Ghaeilge air, mar is t\u00e1irge ainm branda \u00e9<\/strong>.\u00a0 But we could do “yeast extract,” which is:<\/p>\n

\u00fasc giosta (an t-\u00fasc giosta, gan iolra<\/strong>, that is “no plural,” at least in typical usage), yeast extract.\u00a0 The word “\u00fasc<\/strong>” is fun to say, isn’t it?<\/p>\n

Remember, “\u00fasc<\/strong>” [oosk] and its tuiseal ginideach<\/strong>, “\u00faisc<\/strong>” [ooshk], are completely different from “uaisc<\/strong>” [say: OO-ishk], which is a variation of “f\u00f3isc<\/strong>” [fohshk], which means “yearling ewe,” or sometimes is just defined as “ewe,” but then, that could be “caora<\/strong>,” and off we go tripping merrily down animal husbandry terminology lane.\u00a0 Well, not really here, right now, but just because I can’t resist adding it, there are a few more variations for “ewe,” namely\u00a0\u00f3isc<\/strong> and \u00f3thaisc<\/strong> (silent t, remember).<\/p>\n

4: As comhr\u00e1 a ceathair (speicis) <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

ag obair faoi r\u00fan<\/strong>, working undercover<\/p>\n

duilleog<\/strong>, here “a brim” (of a hat), elsewhere: most commonly, a leaf, also a page, a frond<\/p>\n

idir-r\u00e9altrach<\/strong>, intergalactic<\/p>\n

in-chreidte<\/strong>, convincing (an-inchreidte<\/strong>, very convincing)<\/p>\n

Marsach (an Marsach, iol: na Marsaigh)<\/strong>, Martian<\/p>\n

neach daonna (an neach daonna, iol: na neacha daonna)<\/strong>, human being<\/p>\n

5: As comhr\u00e1 a c\u00faig<\/em> (comhr\u00e1 idir mh\u00f3id\u00edn\u00ed <\/strong>Doctor Who\u00a0 — remember, one of my favorite ceisteanna<\/strong> to ask in Irish: “An m\u00f3id\u00edn Doctor Who th\u00fa?<\/strong>,” and remember also, it really means, “Are you a fan of Doctor Who?” i.e. the TV show, not “an docht\u00fair \u00e9 f\u00e9in<\/strong>,” which would end up as “An m\u00f3id\u00edn an Docht\u00fara th\u00fa?<\/strong>“)<\/p>\n

m\u00f3id\u00edn (an m\u00f3id\u00edn, iol: na m\u00f3id\u00edn\u00ed<\/strong>), fan (as in a pop culture fan, not any of the following types of mechanical apparatus: fean, gaothr\u00e1n, geol\u00e1n, s\u00e9ideal<\/strong>).\u00a0 The word “m\u00f3id\u00edn<\/strong>” also means “devotee” and some other words for “fan” are “leant\u00f3ir<\/strong>” (a follower) or the somewhat cumbersome “ball de lucht taca\u00edochta<\/strong>” (a member of [the] supporters, lit. … of [the] crowd\/group of support).<\/p>\n

ag cur gotha ort f\u00e9in<\/strong>, posing (lit. something like putting fancy poses on yourself).\u00a0 With “ort<\/strong>,” this phrase is specifically for “you.”\u00a0 Not the aforementioned “ewe,” although we could always say, “T\u00e1 an fh\u00f3isc ag cur gotha uirthi f\u00e9in<\/strong>,” which is a good start to considering the other forms of this phrase: ag cur gotha orm f\u00e9in, … air f\u00e9in, uirthi f\u00e9in, orainn f\u00e9in, oraibh f\u00e9in, orthu f\u00e9in<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

macasamhail (an mhacasamhail, iol: na macasamhla<\/strong>, NB the somewhat irregular plural there), replica<\/p>\n

So that’s the end of the vocabulary roundup.\u00a0 Anois, na tornapa\u00ed.\u00a0 Seo c\u00fapla cine\u00e1l tornapa\u00ed eile, nach raibh san alt eile, mar a gheall m\u00e9:<\/strong><\/p>\n

red turnip, tornapa dearg<\/strong><\/p>\n

turnip rape, r\u00e1ib thornapa<\/strong> or alternately (natch!) tornapa r\u00e1ibe<\/strong>, that’s “rape” as in “rapeseed oil” and actually as in some versions of “Rapunzell” (where Rapunzell’s mother wants to eat the rape plant, which is growing in the witch’s garden).\u00a0 Anyway, not “rape” the violent crime.<\/p>\n

white turnip, tornapa b\u00e1n<\/strong>.\u00a0 This may need some clarification.\u00a0 Is this term supposed to refer to “Tokyo turnips” aka “white turnips” (the so-called “kabura-type”) which are small, white inside and out, somewhat sweet when steamed (often whole), and edible raw?\u00a0 Or does it refer to the European\/North American turnips which are simply white, not yellow, and which I think could never be cooked by steaming them whole.\u00a0 I can’t find a single reference to “tornapa<\/strong>” combined with “T\u00f3iceo<\/strong>” in Irish in any online source, so I think the answer will have to wait until I can visit a Japanese restaurant in the Gaeltacht with a fluent bilingual speaker of Gaeilge<\/strong> and Seap\u00e1inis<\/strong>.\u00a0 “B\u00e9arla<\/strong> a plus,” of course.\u00a0 But I think we really need a turnipologist.\u00a0 Or should I say “brassicologist” — I did find 12 hits online for that word.<\/p>\n

wild turnip, tornapa fi\u00e1in<\/strong> (quite straightforward, that, for “Brassica rapa<\/em>“)<\/p>\n

But “Indian turnip” aka Jack-in-the-Pulpit and “wild turnip” (the flower, a the member of the genus Arisaema<\/em>, not simply the wild version of the vegetable) doesn’t have any version of the word “turnip” in it.\u00a0 It’s “draganlus tr\u00eddhuilleach<\/strong>” (lit. three-leaved dragonplant).\u00a0 OK!\u00a0 I don’t totally get the “turnip” connection, since Jack-in-the-Pulpits contain oxalic acid, which is toxic if eaten.\u00a0 “Indian” here presumably refers to North American Indian, since this a “planda as Meirice\u00e1 Thuaidh<\/strong>.”\u00a0 For that phrase, note that while “Meirice\u00e1nach<\/strong>” is typical for “an American” or “American” (the adjective), once we start saying something is “North American” or “South American,” the tendency is to use either the prepositional phrase “as<\/strong> Meirice\u00e1 Thuaidh \/ Theas<\/strong>” or “\u00f3 Mheirice\u00e1 Thuaidh \/ Theas<\/strong> (lit. from North \/ South America).<\/p>\n

The use of “neep”, which is a saga unto itself, will have to wait for another time.<\/p>\n

So turnips, Vegemite, and Martians — can’t say this blog isn’t far-reaching!\u00a0 SGF — R\u00f3isl\u00edn<\/strong><\/p>\n

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(le R\u00f3isl\u00edn)   Today we’ll have the final touch to our recent turnip terminology tour (naisc th\u00edos).\u00a0 We’ll complete the vocabulary roundup for the earlier blogpost of conversations that had a pumpkin talking to a turnip, a Vegemite vignette, a confession from an undercover Martian, a Doctor Who conversation, and an “otairinealaraingeola\u00ed” thrown in, all…<\/p>\n

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