{"id":1593,"date":"2012-02-29T20:07:13","date_gmt":"2012-02-29T20:07:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/italian\/?p=1593"},"modified":"2012-02-29T20:07:13","modified_gmt":"2012-02-29T20:07:13","slug":"si-impersonale-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/italian\/si-impersonale-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Si Impersonale &ndash; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"justify\">A few days ago I wrote about the impersonal pronoun <strong>\u2018si\u2019<\/strong>: <a title=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/italian\/si-impersonale-part-1\/\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/italian\/si-impersonale-part-1\/\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">Si Impersonale &#8211; part 1<\/font><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Today I\u2019ll continue by looking at some other aspects of the <strong>si impersonale.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>1. Verbi Riflessivi <\/strong>(Reflexive Verbs)<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Let\u2019s see how the <strong>si impersonale<\/strong> is used with reflexive verbs. Take for example the reflexive verb <strong>riposarsi<\/strong> (to rest <font color=\"#646b86\"><em>oneself<\/em><\/font>): <strong>mi riposo<\/strong> (I rest <em><font color=\"#646b86\">myself<\/font><\/em>), <strong>lui\/lei si riposa<\/strong> (he or she rests<em> <font color=\"#646b86\">himself\/herself<\/font><\/em>), <strong>noi ci riposiamo<\/strong> (we rest <em><font color=\"#646b86\">ourselves<\/font><\/em>) etc. Now, when we use a reflexive verb in the impersonal form, we have to make a small modification in order to avoid repeating <strong>\u2018si\u2019<\/strong>, therefore, instead of saying<em>&#160;<strong>\u2018si si riposa\u2019<\/strong><\/em><strong> <\/strong>(one rests <em><font color=\"#646b86\">oneself &#8211; <\/font><\/em>reflexive pronoun + impersonal pronoun) we change the first <strong>\u2018si\u2019<\/strong> to a <strong>\u2018\u00e7i\u2019<\/strong> to make <strong><em>ci si<\/em> riposa <\/strong>(one rests <em><font color=\"#646b86\">oneself<\/font><\/em>), e.g. <strong>la domenica ci si riposa <\/strong>(one rests <em><font color=\"#646b86\">oneself<\/font> <\/em>on Sundays). Follow the same rule for all reflexive verbs, e.g. <strong>ci si veste<\/strong> (one dresses <em><font color=\"#646b86\">oneself<\/font><\/em>), <strong>ci si alza<\/strong> (one gets <font color=\"#646b86\"><em>oneself<\/em><\/font> up) etc.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>2. Accordo del participio passato <\/strong>(Agreement with the past participle)<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">As I explained in part 1 of this blog, the <strong>passato prossimo<\/strong> (present perfect)<strong> <\/strong>is always built with the verb <strong>essere<\/strong>, even with transitive verbs that would normally have the verb <strong>avere<\/strong>. If you need to revise the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs, you\u2019ll find my blog on the topic here:<font color=\"#0000ff\"> <\/font><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/italian\/transitive-and-intransitive-verbs\/\"><font color=\"#0000ff\">Transitive and Intransitive Verbs<\/font><\/a>. However, there are several possibilities for the ending of the <strong>participio passato <\/strong>(past participle). Let\u2019s have a look at them: <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">a. If the verb is transitive and is not followed by a direct object, the <font color=\"#ff0000\">past participle<\/font> ends in <font color=\"#ff0000\"><strong>o<\/strong><\/font><font color=\"#000000\">, e.g. <strong>dopo che <font color=\"#ff0000\"><font color=\"#000000\">si \u00e8<\/font> studiato<\/font>, ci si pu\u00f2 rilassare <\/strong>(after one has studied, one can relax).<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">b. When the transitive verb is followed by a direct object, the past participle agrees with the object, i.e. the ending changes from masculine to feminine, and from singular to plural, e.g.:<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>dopo che <font color=\"#000000\">si \u00e8<\/font><font color=\"#ff0000\"> messa<\/font> <font color=\"#ff0000\">l\u2019acqua<\/font> nella pentola<\/strong> (<em>fem.singular<\/em> &#8211; after you\u2019ve put the water in the saucepan);<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>dopo che <font color=\"#000000\">si sono<\/font><font color=\"#ff0000\"> messe<\/font>&#160;<font color=\"#ff0000\">le patate<\/font> nella pentola <\/strong>(<em>fem.plural<\/em> &#8211; after you\u2019ve put the potatoes in the saucepan);<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>dopo che <font color=\"#000000\">si \u00e8<\/font><font color=\"#ff0000\"> messo<\/font>&#160;<font color=\"#ff0000\">il riso<\/font> nella pentola<\/strong> (<em>masc.singular.<\/em> &#8211; after you\u2019ve put the rice in the saucepan);<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>dopo che <font color=\"#000000\">si sono<\/font><font color=\"#ff0000\"> messi<\/font>&#160;<font color=\"#ff0000\">gli spaghetti<\/font> nella pentola<\/strong> (<em>masc.plural<\/em> &#8211; after you\u2019ve put the spaghetti in the saucepan).<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">c. In reflexive verbs, the <font color=\"#ff0000\">past participle<\/font> is normally masculine plural, e.g. <strong>una volta che <font color=\"#ff0000\"><font color=\"#000000\">ci si \u00e8<\/font> riposati<\/font>, si pu\u00f2 continuare il viaggio <\/strong>(once one has rested, one can carry on with the journey). <\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">d. With intransitive verbs such as <strong>andare <\/strong>(to go), which would normally use the verb <strong>essere<\/strong> in the passato prossimo, the impersonal form has the <font color=\"#ff0000\">past participle<\/font> in the masculine plural, e.g. <strong>una volta che si \u00e8 <font color=\"#ff0000\">andat<\/font><font color=\"#ff0000\">i <\/font>via, non bisogna ritornare <\/strong>(once you\u2019ve gone away, you don\u2019t need to come back).<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">e. With intransitive verbs such as <strong>camminare<\/strong> (to walk), which would normally use the verb <strong>avere<\/strong> in the <font color=\"#000000\">passato prossimo<\/font>, the impersonal form has the<font color=\"#ff0000\"> past participle<\/font> in the masculine singular, e.g. <strong>fanno male le gambe dopo che <font color=\"#ff0000\"><font color=\"#000000\">si \u00e8<\/font> camminato<\/font> molto in montagna <\/strong>(your legs hurt after you\u2019ve walked in the mountains for a long time).<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&#160;<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">OK, I\u2019d intended to finish off this post by mentioning how the <strong>si impersonale<\/strong> is affected by other personal pronouns, together with a couple of curiosities linked to this construction. But the more I think about it, the more complicated it becomes &#8230; so there will be a Part 3!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago I wrote about the impersonal pronoun \u2018si\u2019: Si Impersonale &#8211; part 1 Today I\u2019ll continue by looking at some other aspects of the si impersonale. 1. Verbi Riflessivi (Reflexive Verbs) Let\u2019s see how the si impersonale is used with reflexive verbs. 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