{"id":682,"date":"2010-02-06T00:15:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-06T04:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/?p=682"},"modified":"2010-02-06T00:15:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-06T04:15:00","slug":"in-search-of-the-right-ending%e2%80%a6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/in-search-of-the-right-ending%e2%80%a6\/","title":{"rendered":"In Search of the Right Ending\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><em>Today I would like to introduce to you our brand new guest blogger &#8211; <strong>Adam Blomberg<\/strong>. He will be helping me out with the Polish Blog this month, because I think that after all this time of mostly Anna, you all must be hungry for something exciting and fun. And a new (and male at that!) point of view should make things fresh and interesting. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This is Adam&#8217;s first contribution to the Polish Blog, and after reading it I am sure will enjoy his posts as much as you do mine. If not more. (Yes, he&#8217;s that good!)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>So, please put your hands together for Adam!!!<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #000080\"><em>Adam, the floor is yours!<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There are some things in the Polish language that you will never get right. You can learn your declensions by heart, you can get the spelling right, but sometimes it just won\u2019t do. It\u2019s when the language, the map that describes our world, actually meets the world\u2026 and doesn\u2019t fit. The world is constantly changing while language patterns are deeply ingrained in people\u2019s souls, in our brains, and in our dusty books.<\/p>\n<p>The thing I am talking about here are female names for professions or positions of honor. This subject has been mentioned on this blog before, however in the light of the fact that this issue touches half of the human population (women), I thought it was a good idea to give the readers of this blog some more insight into the matter. In Polish, of course.<\/p>\n<p>The style of addressing a woman-professor, woman-driver, or a woman-judge, woman-prime-minister or woman-MP (etc.) in Polish could be one of the trickiest things, even for native Poles. Sometimes it\u2019s balancing on a thin line: someone might get offended.<\/p>\n<p>It all began in the past, when as in most of the Western world, it was believed that men and women were created to perform different roles, and so they did. Men conquered the world, or pursued high-flying careers. Women rocked the cradle and provided domestic service. These prehistoric conditions have long since changed. But the language hasn\u2019t changed that much \u2013 just yet \u2013 to fit them.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore the Polish language is inconsistent with those profession names. Various occupations have only one generally accepted gender version:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> for instance: <strong>prezes<\/strong> (company president), <strong>premier<\/strong> (prime minister), <strong>s\u0119dzia<\/strong> (judge), <strong>pe\u0142nomocnik<\/strong> (legal agent), <strong>kierowca<\/strong> (driver, note \u2013 not tram\/train driver), <strong>referent<\/strong> (sub-species of office worker), <strong>g\u00f3rnik<\/strong> (miner), <strong>doktor<\/strong> (PhD holder) \u2013 have no apparent female version<\/li>\n<li> and <strong>przedszkolanka<\/strong> (kindergarten teacher) \u2013 has no male version.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/joanna_senyszyn.jpg\" aria-label=\"Joanna Senyszyn\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-683\"  alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/joanna_senyszyn.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/joanna_senyszyn.jpg 400w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/joanna_senyszyn-350x234.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em><strong>Joanna Senyszyn &#8211; europose\u0142<\/strong> &#8211; EU Parliament Member <\/em><\/p>\n<p>There are of course several solutions, some more popular than others. The tricky bit is, that usually women strongly prefer one of these: either because of their strong feminist views or because of version sounds more respectable. And the style one chooses to use also might reveal their political stance on the issues of feminism. As it were the feminists who stress this matter and point to the need for female naming conventions.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz.jpg\" aria-label=\"Henryka Bochniarz\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-684\"  alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"377\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz.jpg 400w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz-350x330.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em><strong>Henryka Bochniarz<\/strong> &#8211; <strong>prezes<\/strong> &#8211; company president (<strong>Polska Konfederacja Pracodawc\u00f3w Prywatnych<br \/>\nLewiatan<\/strong> &#8211; Polish Confederation of Private Employers)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\">\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">Solutions:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>1.\tThe most popular thing people do, is to add the word <strong>pani<\/strong> (lady, or Mrs) before the positions of prestige or use the male form altogether: so we would have <strong>pani prezydent<\/strong>, <strong>pani s\u0119dzia<\/strong>, <strong>pani premier<\/strong>, <strong>pani pe\u0142nomocnik, pani doktor, pani pose\u0142<\/strong>. As the male version sounds prestigious most people use the male version even if a female word does exist \u2013 so that it sounds better: for instance: <strong>pani psycholog<\/strong> (psychologist), <strong>pani stomatolog<\/strong> (dentist), <strong>pani nauczyciel<\/strong> (teacher);<\/p>\n<p>2.\tSome women prefer, and some feminist periodicals promote, the use of \u2013 let\u2019s call it the \u201c<strong>-ka<\/strong>\u201d type of endings, that are based on a pattern already used in the Polish language for some female positions (<strong>nauczycielka<\/strong>) and extend it: <strong>prezydentka, prezeska, premierka, doktorka, pos\u0142anka<\/strong>\u2026 and we have a problem with <strong>s\u0119dzia<\/strong> \u2013 they would probably use the word <strong>s\u0119dzina<\/strong> (usually means the wife of a judge).<\/p>\n<p>Many women however would not use these words as they sound and look like diminutives. As if a woman president was not a proper president but \u201clittle president\u201d. A prezzie. Some women argue that these words will no longer sound like diminutives if we do use them and get used to them. Others point that <strong>prezydentka<\/strong> is actually a direct equivalent of <strong>prezydentek<\/strong> (little president, dwarf-president) \u2013 rather than <strong>prezydent<\/strong>. And this conclusion was the basis for solution number three.<\/p>\n<p>3.\tThe third solution is the least popular one (as it introduces a completely new thing), but is the most complex, and is argued to be the most logical, without any prestige loss. It proposes adding letter \u201c<strong>-a<\/strong>\u201d: <strong>prezydenta, prezesa, doktora, s\u0119dzia, rzecznika, referenta, psychologa, g\u00f3rnika, pos\u0142a, nauczyciela.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I will leave with you with this question: Who is Anna Ikeda?<br \/>\n&#8211;\t<strong>bloger?<br \/>\n&#8211;\tpani bloger?<br \/>\n&#8211;\tblogerka?<br \/>\n&#8211;\tblogera?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Which version do you prefer? And why?<\/p>\n<p><em>PS. Anna&#8217;s comment &#8211; the third solution reminds me of how it works in Spanish: se\u00f1or-se\u00f1ora, profesor -profesora.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>PS2. Wasn&#8217;t it an awesome first post?<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"330\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz-350x330.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image tmp-hide-img\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz-350x330.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/polish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/18\/2010\/02\/henryka_bochniarz.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>Today I would like to introduce to you our brand new guest blogger &#8211; Adam Blomberg. He will be helping me out with the Polish Blog this month, because I think that after all this time of mostly Anna, you all must be hungry for something exciting and fun. 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