{"id":10486,"date":"2018-02-05T07:25:04","date_gmt":"2018-02-05T07:25:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/?p=10486"},"modified":"2018-02-06T04:27:45","modified_gmt":"2018-02-06T04:27:45","slug":"who-gets-called-russian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/who-gets-called-russian\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Gets Called &#8220;Russian&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How often have you heard the phrase &#8220;So-and-so is Russian&#8221;? What was meant by &#8220;Russian&#8221; in that case? Was the person a citizen of the Russian Federation? Did they live in any of the neighbo(u)ring countries? Did they speak Russian? This post will examine the many ways &#8220;Russian&#8221; (<strong>\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439<\/strong> and other related words) is used.<\/p>\n<h2>Subject of the\u00a0Russian Empire<\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_10549\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10549\" class=\"size-large wp-image-10549\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Marriage_certificate-1907-1024x838.jpg\" alt=\"Polish marriage certificate from 1907\" width=\"1024\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Marriage_certificate-1907-1024x838.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Marriage_certificate-1907-350x286.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Marriage_certificate-1907-768x628.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Marriage_certificate-1907.jpg 1299w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10549\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1907 Marriage Certificate from Warsaw (\u0412\u0430\u0440\u0448\u0430\u0432\u0430), then in the Russian Empire\/\/Public Domain, <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=1302831\">Link<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Often, when talking to a person outside Russia about their family history, you may hear them say, for example, that their grandmother (<strong>\u0431<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0430<\/span>\u0431\u0443\u0448\u043a\u0430<\/strong>, note the word stress) was from Russia. So far so good, right? Then they casually mention said grandma lived, let&#8217;s say, in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Odessa\">Odessa<\/a> (<strong>\u041e\u0434<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u0430<\/strong>, a city currently in Ukraine). What&#8217;s going on here? Did the person confuse Russia and Ukraine?<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to family trees or immigrant ancestors, &#8220;Russia&#8221; (<strong>\u0420\u043e\u0441\u0441<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0438<\/span>\u044f<\/strong>) is sometimes used as a catch-all equivalent of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Russian_Empire\">Russian Empire<\/a> (<strong>\u0420\u043e\u0441\u0441<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0438<\/span>\u0439\u0441\u043a\u0430\u044f \u0438\u043c\u043f<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u0440\u0438\u044f<\/strong>). That empire, which existed from the 18th century until the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/February_Revolution\">Russian Revolution<\/a> in 1917, spanned various territories including parts of what is now Poland (<strong>\u041f<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u043e<\/span>\u043b\u044c\u0448\u0430<\/strong>), Finland (<strong>\u0424\u0438\u043d\u043b<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044f<\/span>\u043d\u0434\u0438\u044f<\/strong>), Georgia (<strong>\u0413\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0437\u0438\u044f<\/strong>), Ukraine (<strong>\u0423\u043a\u0440\u0430<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0438<\/span>\u043d\u0430<\/strong>), and other sovereign nations. Some of these became independent after the collapse of the Russian Empire, while others broke away after the collapse of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Soviet_Union\">Soviet Union<\/a> (<strong>\u0421\u043e\u0432<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u0442\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439 \u0421\u043e<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044e<\/span>\u0437<\/strong>).<\/p>\n<h2>Soviet or Russian?<\/h2>\n<p><div id=\"attachment_10552\" style=\"width: 783px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10552\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10552\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Hebrew_Writers_in_Odessa.jpg\" alt=\"Jewish writers in Odessa\" width=\"773\" height=\"499\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Hebrew_Writers_in_Odessa.jpg 773w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Hebrew_Writers_in_Odessa-350x226.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Hebrew_Writers_in_Odessa-768x496.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 773px) 100vw, 773px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10552\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hebrew writers in Odessa\/\/[Public domain], <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File%3AHebrew_Writers_in_Odessa_before_leaving_the_Soviet_Russia.3.jpg\">via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/p><\/div>An American once asked me if I was from Russia or one of the former Soviet Republics. A tongue-in-cheek answer is &#8220;both&#8221; as Russia\u00a0<em>is\u00a0<\/em>a former Soviet Republic (<strong>\u0441\u043e\u0432<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u0442\u0441\u043a\u0430\u044f \u0440\u0435\u0441\u043f<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0431\u043b\u0438\u043a\u0430<\/strong>). A more serious answer is that a person from any of the newly-independent nations that used to be ruled by Russia is unlikely to say &#8220;Russia&#8221; instead of the name of their country.\u00a0However, &#8220;Russia&#8221; was often used interchangeably with &#8220;the Soviet Union,&#8221; especially by foreign press, so people abroad may refer to all former Soviet republics as &#8220;Russia.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For instance, my distant American cousins tell me their grandfather used to send clothes to his sister (<strong>\u0441\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0430<\/span><\/strong>) in &#8220;Russia.&#8221; I happen to know that the sister, who was my great-grandmother (<strong>\u043f\u0440\u0430\u0431<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0430<\/span>\u0431\u0443\u0448\u043a\u0430<\/strong>), lived in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chernivtsi\">Chernivtsi<\/a> (<strong>\u0427\u0435\u0440\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0446<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044b<\/span><\/strong>, formerly <strong>\u0427\u0435\u0440\u043d\u043e\u0432<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0438<\/span>\u0446\u044b<\/strong>,\u00a0in Russian) in Ukraine. It also gets confusing because there are people who <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ethnic_Russians_in_post-Soviet_states\">identify as Russian<\/a>\u00a0(<strong>\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0435<\/strong>) and people who do not identify as Russian but <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/3-incorrect-assumptions-about-native-russian-speakers\/\">speak Russian as their first language<\/a>\u00a0in the former Soviet republics.<\/p>\n<h2>Heritage or Citizenship?<\/h2>\n<p><div id=\"attachment_10554\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone post-item__attachment\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10554\" class=\"size-large wp-image-10554\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-1024x778.jpg\" alt=\"Buryat wrestling\" width=\"1024\" height=\"778\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-350x266.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-768x584.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10554\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By \u0410\u0440\u043a\u0430\u0434\u0438\u0439 \u0417\u0430\u0440\u0443\u0431\u0438\u043d (Own work) [<a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\">CC BY-SA 3.0<\/a>], <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File%3ABuryat_wrestling_01.jpg\">via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/p><\/div>Several of my friends and I have heard people abroad say we &#8220;don&#8217;t look Russian.&#8221; As Jenya pointed out on this blog, there is <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/what-does-a-russian-look-like\/\">no such thing as a single Russian look<\/a>. People of various backgrounds came to live on the territory of Russia as a result of conquest or migration, so you may find, among other groups, people of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Slavic_people\">Slavic<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Turkic_peoples\">Turkic<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mongols\">Mongolian<\/a>, or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Finno-Ugric_peoples\">Finnic<\/a>\u00a0heritage, or often a mixed heritage.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/some-awkward-points-on-ethnicity-in-russia\/\">As I wrote before<\/a>, &#8220;Russian&#8221; may refer to a person&#8217;s ethnicity (<strong>\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439\/\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0430\u044f\/\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0435<\/strong>) or citizenship (<strong>\u0440\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044f<\/span>\u043d\u0438\u043d\/\u0440\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044f<\/span>\u043d\u043a\u0430\/\u0440\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044f<\/span>\u043d\u0435<\/strong>). Some documents in Russia, like birth certificates (<strong>\u0441\u0432\u0438\u0434<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e \u043e \u0440\u043e\u0436\u0434<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0435<\/span>\u043d\u0438\u0438<\/strong>), may still indicate a person&#8217;s ethnicity, and a citizen of Russia (<strong>\u0440\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u044f<\/span>\u043d\u0438\u043d<\/strong>) may well be labeled something other than <strong>\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439<\/strong>. However, in casual conversation, <strong>\u0440<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0435<\/strong> is much more common when referring to people hailing from Russia or sharing its culture, whatever their ancestry or current citizenship. For example, one may say &#8220;<strong>\u0420<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0443<\/span>\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0445 \u043b\u0435\u0433\u043a<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u043e<\/span> \u0443\u0437\u043d<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0430<\/span>\u0442\u044c \u0437\u0430 \u0433\u0440\u0430\u043d<span style=\"color: #808000\">\u0438<\/span>\u0446\u0435\u0439<\/strong>&#8221; (&#8220;It&#8217;s easy to recognize Russians abroad&#8221;) without conducting a passport check or a DNA test.<\/p>\n<p>What other contexts have you heard the word &#8220;Russian&#8221; used in?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"350\" height=\"266\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-350x266.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Buryat wrestling\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-350x266.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling-768x584.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/10\/2018\/02\/Buryat-wrestling.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><p>How often have you heard the phrase &#8220;So-and-so is Russian&#8221;? What was meant by &#8220;Russian&#8221; in that case? Was the person a citizen of the Russian Federation? Did they live in any of the neighbo(u)ring countries? Did they speak Russian? This post will examine the many ways &#8220;Russian&#8221; (\u0440\u0443\u0441\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439 and other related words) is used&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"post-item__readmore\"><a class=\"btn btn--md\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/who-gets-called-russian\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":113,"featured_media":10554,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":""},"categories":[3,178],"tags":[253017,507273,507254,349633],"class_list":["post-10486","post","type-post","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-culture","category-history","tag-former-soviet-union","tag-former-ussr","tag-russian-outside-russia","tag-russians-abroad"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.0.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"How often have you heard the phrase &quot;So-and-so is Russian&quot;? 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