{"id":13248,"date":"2020-11-13T04:15:33","date_gmt":"2020-11-13T04:15:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/?p=13248"},"modified":"2020-11-13T04:15:33","modified_gmt":"2020-11-13T04:15:33","slug":"should-i-use-%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%b8%d0%bd-or-%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%b7","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/russian\/should-i-use-%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%b8%d0%bd-or-%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%b7\/","title":{"rendered":"Should I use \u043e\u0434\u0438\u043d or \u0440\u0430\u0437?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ever wondered why some Russians count \u201cone, two, three\u201d as \u201c<\/strong>\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0301\u043d, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u2026<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> while others say \u201c<\/strong>\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u2026<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong>?<\/strong> Why would there be two Russian words to say \u201cone\u201d?<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s how to differentiate between the two if you\u2019re a beginner Russian learner.<\/p>\n

\u201c<\/strong>\u0420\u0430\u0301\u0437<\/strong>, <\/strong>\u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> is really only used when counting orally, like when a ballroom dance instructor is counting the rhythm of the waltz or when a parent is playing hide-and-seek (\u043f\u0440\u044f\u0301\u0442\u043a\u0438<\/strong>) with their kid and says \u201c<\/strong>\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u2026 \u041a\u0442\u043e \u043d\u0435 \u0441\u043f\u0440\u044f\u0301\u0442\u0430\u043b\u0441\u044f, \u044f \u043d\u0435 \u0432\u0438\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0430\u0301\u0442!<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> (\u201cOne, two, three\u2026Ready or not, here I come!\u201d)<\/p>\n

\u201c\u041e\u0434\u0438\u0301\u043d<\/strong>, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301<\/strong>,<\/strong> \u0442\u0440\u0438<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> is the main way to count \u201cone, two, three\u201d both orally and in written form. Some people might say that counting \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438<\/strong>\u201d is not grammatically correct, but the phrase is so common and familiar that it\u2019s no use crying over that spilled milk.<\/p>\n

\"hide_and_seek\"

Image by H\u1ed3 Huy Ho\u00e0ng<\/a> from Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n

Now, let\u2019s look beyond the basics of differentiating \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong>\u201d and \u201c\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0301\u043d<\/strong>\u201d. Plus, I still want you to understand why some think that \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430, \u0442\u0440\u0438<\/strong>\u201d is technically incorrect.<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0420\u0430\u0301\u0437\u201d<\/strong> is actually not a numeral (\u0447\u0438\u0441\u043b\u0438\u0301\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u043d\u043e\u0435)<\/strong> but can either be a noun (\u0441\u0443\u0449\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0438\u0301\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u043d\u043e\u0435<\/strong>) that means \u201ctime\u201d (as in “one time”) or a subordinate conjunction (\u043f\u043e\u0434\u0447\u0438\u043d\u0438\u0301\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u043d\u044b\u0439 \u0441\u043e\u044e\u0301\u0437)<\/strong> that\u2019s close in meaning to \u201cif\u201d, \u201csince\u201d, and \u201cnow\u201d. Compare the following examples:<\/p>\n

\u201c\u042f \u0441\u0434\u0430\u0301\u043b \u0442\u0435\u0441\u0442 \u043d\u0430 \u0432\u043e\u0436\u0434\u0435\u0301\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0441\u043e \u0432\u0442\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0301\u0433\u043e \u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437\u0430\u201d<\/strong> (I passed my driving exam on the second try).<\/p>\n

\u201c\u041c\u043e\u0439 \u043a\u043e\u0442 \u0431\u043e\u043b\u0435\u0301\u043b \u0442\u0440\u0438 \u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437\u0430 \u0432 \u044d\u0301\u0442\u043e\u043c \u0433\u043e\u0301\u0434\u0443\u201d<\/strong> (My cat was sick three times this year).<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0421\u0434\u0435\u0301\u043b\u0430\u0439\u0442\u0435 \u0432\u044b\u0301\u043f\u0430\u0434\u044b \u043d\u0430 \u043a\u0430\u0301\u0436\u0434\u0443\u044e \u043d\u043e\u0301\u0433\u0443 \u043f\u043e 20 \u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437.\u201d<\/strong> (Do lunges 20 times on each leg\/ Do 20 lunges on each leg).<\/p>\n

vs<\/p>\n

\u201c\u042f \u043d\u0430\u0432\u0435\u0301\u0440\u043d\u043e\u0435 \u043f\u043e\u0439\u0434\u0443\u0301 \u0434\u043e\u043c\u043e\u0301\u0439, \u0440\u0430\u0437 \u0432\u044b \u0443\u0436\u0435 \u0432\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0443\u0301\u043b\u0438\u0441\u044c\u201d<\/strong> (I\u2019ll probably go home now that you are back).<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0420\u0430\u0437 \u0443\u0436 \u0442\u044b \u0438\u0434\u0451\u0448\u044c \u0433\u0443\u043b\u044f\u0301\u0442\u044c, \u0442\u043e \u0432\u044b\u0301\u043d\u0435\u0441\u0438 \u043c\u0443\u0301\u0441\u043e\u0440\u201d<\/strong> (If you are going out then take the trash out as well).<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0420\u0430\u0437 \u0442\u044b \u0442\u0430\u043a \u0433\u0440\u0443\u0301\u0431\u043e \u0441\u0435\u0431\u044f\u0301 \u0432\u0435\u0434\u0451\u0448\u044c, \u044f \u043d\u0435 \u0431\u0443\u0301\u0434\u0443 \u0442\u0435\u0431\u0435\u0301 \u043f\u043e\u043c\u043e\u0433\u0430\u0301\u0442\u044c!\u201d<\/strong> (Since you are acting so rude, I won\u2019t help you!)<\/p>\n

\"number_1\"

Image by Projekt_Kaffeebart<\/a> from Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n

Let\u2019s go back to counting for a second. Remember how I said that \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u201d<\/strong> is a common way to count orally? Just make sure you don\u2019t count that way when counting objects or people because \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437<\/strong>\u201d is not a numeral. Otherwise, it would sound as silly as \u201ctimes pencil, two pencils, three pencils\u201d if you were counting the number of pencils on your desks, for example.<\/p>\n

Use \u201c\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0301\u043d \u043a\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0434\u0430\u0301\u0448, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301 \u043a\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0434\u0430\u0448\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301 \u043a\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0434\u0430\u0448\u0430\u0301\u201d<\/strong> and so on and so forth.<\/p>\n

\"alone\"

Image by wgbieber<\/a> from Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n

The only acceptable exception to this is from a childhood cartoon \u0422\u0440\u044f\u043c! \u0417\u0434\u0440\u0430\u0432\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0443\u0439\u0442\u0435!<\/strong><\/a> (turn on the English subs if needed) released in 1980, in which one of the most adorable hedgehogs of Russian cinematography is counting daisies as \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437 \u0440\u043e\u043c\u0430\u0301\u0448\u043a\u0430! \u0434\u0432\u0430 \u0440\u043e\u043c\u0430\u0301\u0448\u043a\u0430! \u0442\u0440\u0438 \u0440\u043e\u043c\u0430\u0301\u0448\u043a\u0430!<\/strong>\u201d.<\/strong> The Hedgehog from \u201cTryam! Hello!\u201d is just as adorable as the Hedgehog from \u201cHedgehog in the Fog\u201d<\/a> (\u0401\u0436\u0438\u043a \u0432 \u0422\u0443\u043c\u0430\u0301\u043d\u0435)<\/strong> and therefore they can both be forgiven all grammatical mistakes.<\/p>\n

\"daisies\"

Image by Manfred Richter<\/a> from Pixabay<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n

The noun \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong>\u201d is part of many common phrases when talking about time, frequency, and occurances.<\/p>\n

\u043a\u0430\u0301\u043a-\u0442\u043e \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = once<\/p>\n

\u043d\u0438 \u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437\u0443<\/strong> = not a single time<\/p>\n

\u043d\u0435 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = many times;<\/p>\n

\u0437\u0430 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = in one time<\/p>\n

\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0301\u043b\u044c\u043a\u043e \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = how many times<\/p>\n

\u0447\u0435\u0301\u0440\u0435\u0437 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = every other time<\/p>\n

\u0432 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0301\u0448\u043b\u044b\u0439 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = last time<\/p>\n

\u0432 \u044d\u0301\u0442\u043e\u0442 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = this time<\/p>\n

\u0432 \u0441\u043b\u0435\u0301\u0434\u0443\u044e\u0449\u0438\u0439 \u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong> = next time<\/p>\n

Another fun phrase with the word \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437<\/strong>\u201d is \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0437-\u0434\u0440\u0443\u0433\u043e\u0439<\/strong>\u201d meaning \u201csometimes\u201d or \u201ca few times\u201d when talking about a small amount.<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0420\u0430\u0437-\u0434\u0440\u0443\u0433\u043e\u0301\u0439 \u043f\u0435\u0440\u0435\u0441\u0435\u043a\u043b\u0438\u0301\u0441\u044c \u043e\u043d\u0438\u0301 \u0432 \u044d\u0301\u0442\u043e\u043c \u043a\u0430\u0444\u0435\u0301, \u043d\u043e \u0442\u0430\u043a \u0438 \u043e\u0431\u043c\u0435\u043d\u044f\u0301\u043b\u0438\u0441\u044c \u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0444\u043d\u0430\u043c\u0438\u201d.<\/strong> (They ran into each other a few times at this caf\u00e9 but didn\u2019t end up getting each other\u2019s numbers).<\/p>\n

What are some other Russian quirks about numbers? Let me know in the comments and I would love to talk to you about them!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\"daisies\"

Ever wondered why some Russians count \u201cone, two, three\u201d as \u201c\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0301\u043d, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u2026\u201d while others say \u201c\u0440\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u2026\u201d? Why would there be two Russian words to say \u201cone\u201d? Here\u2019s how to differentiate between the two if you\u2019re a beginner Russian learner. \u201c\u0420\u0430\u0301\u0437, \u0434\u0432\u0430\u0301, \u0442\u0440\u0438\u0301\u201d is really only used when counting orally, like when a…<\/p>\n

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