{"id":1544,"date":"2013-01-23T16:43:32","date_gmt":"2013-01-23T16:43:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/?p=1544"},"modified":"2013-01-17T21:01:15","modified_gmt":"2013-01-17T21:01:15","slug":"how-does-one-note-thai-tones-when-writing-thai-using-the-english-alphabet-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/how-does-one-note-thai-tones-when-writing-thai-using-the-english-alphabet-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"How does one note Thai tones when writing Thai using the English alphabet? part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>4) Method #4: Use arrows\/lines to represent tones.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This method involves the use of lines and\/or arrows above each syllable to represent the tone. This is by far the most intuitive method of all of them, requiring little explanation for a beginner.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">The method is as such:<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td rowspan=\"5\" valign=\"top\" width=\"61\">\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/thai_tone_arrow.png\" aria-label=\"Thai Tone Arrow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1546\"  alt=\"\" width=\"47\" height=\"242\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/thai_tone_arrow.png\"><\/a><\/td>\n<td width=\"174\">\n<p align=\"center\">High tone<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"174\">\n<p align=\"center\">Mid tone<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"174\">\n<p align=\"center\">Low tone<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"174\">\n<p align=\"center\">\n<p align=\"center\">Rising tone<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"174\">\n<p align=\"center\">Falling tone<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">The below image is from a recent class I taught my Thai language students on Thai geography. As you can see, the arrow method works quite well and is my preferred method. It\u2019s also very easy to see and hard to confuse if my handwriting is sloppy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/DSC00291-e1358455943373.jpg\" aria-label=\"DSC00291 E1358455943373\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1545\"  alt=\"\" width=\"520\" height=\"481\" \/ src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/DSC00291-e1358455943373.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/DSC00291-e1358455943373.jpg 520w, https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/DSC00291-e1358455943373-350x324.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">The biggest issue with this method however is typing it. Windows does have \u2191\u2192\u2193 arrow characters, but it doesn\u2019t have one for rising and falling. I also cannot put them above a syllable. Although, I have seen learn Thai books that have somehow managed to use this method in print, I don\u2019t know how to do this in Microsoft Word . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Method #5: Number the tones.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This method uses a number after each syllable to represent the tone of that syllable. I first saw this method when a Chinese friend of mine was using it on facebook to write Chinese words in the English alphabet. I immediately liked it because it is nearly effortless to type a number (as opposed to the other methods).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">The method works as such:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>1 \u2013 mid tone<\/p>\n<p>2 \u2013 low tone<\/p>\n<p>3 \u2013 falling tone<\/p>\n<p>4 \u2013 high tone<\/p>\n<p>5 \u2013 rising tone<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">Example: sa2wat2dee2 krap4<\/span><\/p>\n<p>(notice a space was added before krap4 to signal a new word, as opposed to a new syllable)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">Unfortunately this method is the least intuitive method and hardest to learn. Heck, the tones aren\u2019t even \u2018in order\u2019! What is the logic behind it, anyway?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">This is the system taught to every Thai child, with tones in that exact order. Thais do not know the difference between \u2018high\u2019, \u2018low\u2019, \u2018falling\u2019, etc. If you ask them what tone a word uses they will repeatedly mumble the word in that order, with a different tone each time, counting on their fingers until they find a match. They will then say \u2018it is the 3rd tone\u2019 (or whatever), clearly having three fingers up (although, sometimes they can\u2019t make up their minds). So, you need to memorize this system anyway to understand their answer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px\">But I will admit, I\u2019m lazy, and typing in a single number is much less time consuming when writing up large vocabulary lists than using the other methods . . .<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<img width=\"47\" height=\"242\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/21\/2013\/01\/thai_tone_arrow.png\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image tmp-hide-img\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><p>I occasionally have readers who write in to ask me to explain what\u2019s up with all those numbers next to all my karoke Thai words. The answer: the numbers are declaring tones. But why am I using such an unintuitive method, I\u2019m asked? As such I will explain what all the methods I\u2019ve seen are&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"post-item__readmore\"><a class=\"btn btn--md\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/how-does-one-note-thai-tones-when-writing-thai-using-the-english-alphabet-part-2\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":59,"featured_media":1546,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":""},"categories":[10208],"tags":[254636,10177,254607],"class_list":["post-1544","post","type-post","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-beginner","tag-marks","tag-thai","tag-tone"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/59"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1544"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1556,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1544\/revisions\/1556"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1546"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1544"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1544"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.transparent.com\/thai\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1544"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}