Beoir: Uaine nó Glas nó Ceachtar? (Beer: Green/Uaine or Green/Glas or Neither?) Posted by róislín on Mar 22, 2013 in Irish Language
Our last blog primarily covered the actual history of St. Patrick and his name. This blog will take a lighter-hearted look at some St. Patrick’s Day imagery, namely the much-maligned-but-nevertheless-consumed green beer. I’m refraining from value judgments on the topic (unlike many of the online commentators!), but am primarily interested in whether people say the beer is “uaine” or “glas,” two different Irish words for green, “uaine” usually for manmade things and “glas” for things in nature. Soon I hope to probe the depths of green bagels (mostly limited to the New York metropolitan area, I think) and green rivers (found in various locations in the United States, most famously Chicago, but also San Antonio, Texas, and Tampa, Florida). For both of these, I’ll also search online for a future blog to see how much cibearbhús they have attracted.
Ar aon chaoi, in this blog, we’ll look at the terms “beoir uaine,” “beoracha uaine,” “beoir ghlas,” and “beoracha glasa,” to see what kind of cibearlorg each one leaves.
a) beoir uaine: I got a grand total of 80 hits, of which many (21) were advertisements for t-shirts, beer steins, or other products with “beoir uaine” slogans on them, mostly “Ní ólfaidh fíor-Ghael beoir uaine.” Most of these sites translate the phrase as “Real Irishmen don’t drink green beer.” Which is more or less correct, except that the slogan is written in the singular and uses “Gael,” not “Éireannach.” And it’s written in the future tense, not the present habitual. So it really translates to “A true Gael will not drink green beer.” But the sentiment is the same and the grammatical differences are relatively minor.
I suppose “the real men” trope stems from the “Ní itheann fíorfhir quiche” phenomenon started by Bruce Feirstein in 1982. Of course he started it in English. I simply translated it here to add to the Irish mix. There could be a slight Celtic connection if Feirstein was inspired by the “No True Scotsman” fallacy, which dates to at least 1975 in Andrew Flew’s classic, Thinking about Thinking. But pursuing that is definitely ábhar blag eile, and perhaps beyond even the scope of this blog go ginearálta. Maybe more relevant to some sort of a “guy thing” blog. Ní i mo “bháillcheantar” atá sé sin.
Out of the 80 hits, another 8 are basically tangential sites that just seem to use the phrase “beoir uaine” to generate web traffic. From the looks of most of them, I don’t even dare cliceáil on them, since they look pretty bogus. Another couple are simply very passing references in a long thread about drinking in general. Interesting to note, but not particularly insightful. Then we have a healthy 35 links to the Transparent Language Irish blog, many of which are cross-references in a side bar column at The Hidden Ireland (http://galltacht.blogspot.com/).
Some of the 80 are hits for the St. Patrick’s Day blog on www.transparent.com dating back to 2009 (Yay!).
So overall, we could say that there aren’t that many hits in general for “beoir uaine,” and of them, only about half of them shed any real insight into how people use the word. Of course, these results only reflect what Google shows me, but I think they do establish a useful pattern.
b) beoracha uaine (“green beers”): I tried “beoracha uaine” as well as “beoir uaine,” even though the phrase wouldn’t typically be used (in favor of “piontaí beoir uaine,” “ceaigeanna beoir uaine,” or perhaps even “oigiséid beoir uaine,” that is making the container plural, not the “beers” themselves). I was a little surprised that my search yielded absolutely no results, not that I expected much. Even “beoracha” itself, never mind the “green” part, only yielded a paltry 6 hits. But again, the whys and wherefores of “beoracha” vs. “beoir” will have to remain “ábhar blag eile.”
c) beoir ghlas: I changed the adjective to “glas,” (usually referring to green growing things) and modified it to “ghlas” to match the feminine noun. This got a total of 8 hits, 6 if we eliminate two that are simply quotes or duplicates of other hits. Not a big number, but, interestingly, most showed the phrase used in realistic contexts, albeit mostly brief, like chat forums, and also mostly negative, like “Is fuath liom beoir ghlas” (I hate green beer).
And then, I tried, for thoroughness’s sake, a search for “beoir” followed directly by “glas,” as such, i.e. without the agreement of “beoir” (a feminine noun) and “ghlas” (a feminine form of the adjective “glas“). So, yeah, I searched for an incorrect grammatical form, just to see what it would yield. An pota óir — 83 amas. So much for grammar and for gender agreement, is dócha.
So, 83 hits, for the grammatically incorrect form! Actually the top of the list started out, probably unintentionally, with “glas” modifying “lá,” which would be ceart go leor de réir na gramadaí. But it looks like the author intended to say “Green Beer Day” so “Lá Glas” doesn’t really make much sense. The adjective almost always follows the noun in Irish, so for beer, “glas” should change to “ghlas,” bringing us back to “beoir ghlas.”
Another interesting twist is that occasionally (in at least one of these hits) we can have “beoir” followed by “glas.” That is when “glas” is a predicate adjective, not part of the noun phrase. So “duchessinaustin” is correct when she says “Níl beoir glas” (Beer is not green; http://twicsy.com/i/4scFrd)
But most of the other 83 hits fell into the typical trap, look up “beer,” look up “green,” force them together regardless of word order, gender or tradition in the language. But that got the most hits <osna!>.
d) beoracha glasa: This search (the plural), got me no hits, though it sure made eBay and Etsy try to sell me some beach glasses! Must be the “minus o, minus r, add ses” algorithm, or however they intuit what they think you meant to say. I’m somewhat comforted that I also got no hits for some searches with deliberately incorrect spellings with “beoracha” followed by “ghlas,” “glas,” or ghlasa.”
So what does all this tell us? Probably that “glas” is more widely understood as the Irish word for “green,” and that a lot of people try to use it to say “green beer.” A handful get it correct, and actually have something to say about the topic. “Beoir uaine” is also used, although it is more often channeled into commercial applications or cibearbhruscar (*bruscarlíne, if I do say so myself). The plural, using “beoracha,” just doesn’t seem to be happening. In fact, “beoracha,” as such, without “green,” only got 6 hits, as mentioned above. But then we are more likely to use the word “beoir” in the singular, even if the quantities imbibed are plural. Because we pour it into containers (piontaí, gloiní, ceaigeanna, oigiséid, srl.), which can then be plural, even though the word “beoir” stays singular.
For what it’s worth, the English search, “green beer,” generates 1,830,000 hits but the plural, “green beers,” drops significantly to about 79,300. The plural introduces also the idea of “green beers” meaning beer produced in an ecologically friendly manner, as in “8 Great Green Beers: Eco-friendly brews that won’t turn your tongue green,” by Maryse Chevriere (http://www.thedailymeal.com/great-green-beers)
And a final note, even the people who do talk about green beer don’t seem to like it much. I found a fitting “focal scoir” from Beauregard in Gaeltacht Minnesota (https://twitter.com/AsGaeilge/status/181107959907106816, dated 3/17/12): Beoir uaine a ól, d’anam a dhíol don Diabhal, which translates to “To drink green beer (is) to sell your soul to the Devil.” Which should put the kybosh on the subject for now!
Next up, béigil uaine (or “ghlasa”) and aibhneacha uaine (or “glasa“). SGF, Róislín
Gluaisín: ceaig, keg; oigiséad, hogshead; pota óir, jackpot, pot of gold. Also, my newly coined contribution to Irish portmanteaus, bruscarlíne, from “bruscar” (rubbish) + “ar líne” (online)
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